From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Juanma Barranquero" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: 23.0.60; M-( and M-) should not be bound in ESC map Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:45:43 +0200 Message-ID: References: <003801c89a85$fcd95ad0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <20080410154940.GB7700@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207842444 3622 80.91.229.12 (10 Apr 2008 15:47:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:47:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, Richard Stallman To: "Alan Mackenzie" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 10 17:47:56 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jjyyy-0002ak-5d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:46:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JjyyK-0001Q5-EU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:45:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JjyyE-0001Mu-TL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:45:50 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JjyyD-0001K5-Ek for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:45:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JjyyD-0001JU-5O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:45:49 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JjyyC-0005DH-T0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:45:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JjyyC-0001uz-GT for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:45:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jjyy9-0005CR-Fw for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:45:48 -0400 Original-Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.183]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jjyy8-0005C9-N8 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:45:45 -0400 Original-Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k34so31375wah.10 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:45:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Vy1KovyCt3bHVsitXlYsxrYgrl3tkB/ptFUEUtHmZs0=; b=veQ+6QrjxxdE+3XWfaqC/vNsCSEwRGrPsMTPkhybkx0HVbE2J3rh5M/Ir6iymNMUYKj3rw105xl8NsUsk87QE2YMv9V/rltUwXzAYAbjd7OzK3CyVgUHLMfjIOyXPnuBqQC+YGnFvjP2eDM+p8npFMOVuTwfCSyXEUYq9mfg+kM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=xNQRuOQfIVqWfvsl3DkGhmHhkUGQyi0WM37AGpjsqxZN2NJH3CD4tKnBC9WjwYWu3J80iWDhY90TOgCLHmE3NuHjurdOup/PePh6VhuuEKZZrHQOrvOKiUB7Lx2PgpHTQ/O3yq7SfPDilr5szRe4P64FnM7d+IVjGakCvE63mfk= Original-Received: by 10.114.88.1 with SMTP id l1mr2012346wab.79.1207842343626; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:45:43 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.115.72.13 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:45:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20080410154940.GB7700@muc.de> Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:94877 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:21959 Archived-At: On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Each such proposal leads to a long > discussion, which takes up lots of people's time. And usually it > doesn't achieve anything. Surely the fact that suggesting the slightest change usually prompts such a long, heated discussion is a factor in not achieving anything. Juanma