* How to get "emacsclient --eval x" to DWIM when Emacs is not started
@ 2008-03-30 20:09 Mathias Dahl
2008-03-30 20:21 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Mathias Dahl @ 2008-03-30 20:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
How can I get "emacsclient --eval x" to DWIM when Emacs is not
started? I have tried the following:
emacsclient -e '(message "Hello!")' -a emacs
But that does not work. What happens is that Emacs, when started as
the alternate editor, tries to open a file with the name ''(message
"Hello!").
For normal operation, i.e. not using --eval but just for opening a
file, -a emacs works well and does what I expect. Why does not --eval
do the same? I have, of course, (server-start) in my .emacs file.
As far as I can see, the manual does not mention this case.
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* Re: How to get "emacsclient --eval x" to DWIM when Emacs is not started
2008-03-30 20:09 How to get "emacsclient --eval x" to DWIM when Emacs is not started Mathias Dahl
@ 2008-03-30 20:21 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-30 21:45 ` Mathias Dahl
2008-03-30 22:49 ` Stefan Monnier
0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) @ 2008-03-30 20:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mathias Dahl; +Cc: emacs-devel
Mathias Dahl wrote:
> How can I get "emacsclient --eval x" to DWIM when Emacs is not
> started? I have tried the following:
>
> emacsclient -e '(message "Hello!")' -a emacs
>
> But that does not work. What happens is that Emacs, when started as
> the alternate editor, tries to open a file with the name ''(message
> "Hello!").
>
> For normal operation, i.e. not using --eval but just for opening a
> file, -a emacs works well and does what I expect. Why does not --eval
> do the same? I have, of course, (server-start) in my .emacs file.
>
> As far as I can see, the manual does not mention this case.
You can always try the patches I use for w32. It works fine for cases
like the above though you just write something like
emacsclient -e "(message \"hello\")"
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* Re: How to get "emacsclient --eval x" to DWIM when Emacs is not started
2008-03-30 20:21 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
@ 2008-03-30 21:45 ` Mathias Dahl
2008-03-30 21:52 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-30 22:49 ` Stefan Monnier
1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Mathias Dahl @ 2008-03-30 21:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lennart Borgman (gmail); +Cc: emacs-devel
> You can always try the patches I use for w32. It works fine for cases
> like the above though you just write something like
>
> emacsclient -e "(message \"hello\")"
This is for GNU/Linux, will your patch work here too?
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* Re: How to get "emacsclient --eval x" to DWIM when Emacs is not started
2008-03-30 21:45 ` Mathias Dahl
@ 2008-03-30 21:52 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-30 22:06 ` Mathias Dahl
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) @ 2008-03-30 21:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mathias Dahl; +Cc: emacs-devel
Mathias Dahl wrote:
>> You can always try the patches I use for w32. It works fine for cases
>> like the above though you just write something like
>>
>> emacsclient -e "(message \"hello\")"
>
> This is for GNU/Linux, will your patch work here too?
From the beginning I think it did, but maybe I have not ifdef:ed the
GUI part yet, I am not sure.
The current state of the patch is not the best, but it works. I have
problem keeping it in sync with CVS and have "unstructured" it to do
that. I am still waiting for some decision to take it into the CVS ...
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* Re: How to get "emacsclient --eval x" to DWIM when Emacs is not started
2008-03-30 21:52 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
@ 2008-03-30 22:06 ` Mathias Dahl
2008-03-30 22:33 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Mathias Dahl @ 2008-03-30 22:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lennart Borgman (gmail); +Cc: emacs-devel
> The current state of the patch is not the best, but it works. I have
> problem keeping it in sync with CVS and have "unstructured" it to do
> that. I am still waiting for some decision to take it into the CVS ...
I know there was a lot of discussion about emacsclient some time back
and I did not follow it very closely (it was too much), was this ever
discussed and is there any good reason for this not working as I think
most would expect?
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* Re: How to get "emacsclient --eval x" to DWIM when Emacs is not started
2008-03-30 22:06 ` Mathias Dahl
@ 2008-03-30 22:33 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) @ 2008-03-30 22:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mathias Dahl; +Cc: emacs-devel
Mathias Dahl wrote:
>> The current state of the patch is not the best, but it works. I have
>> problem keeping it in sync with CVS and have "unstructured" it to do
>> that. I am still waiting for some decision to take it into the CVS ...
>
> I know there was a lot of discussion about emacsclient some time back
> and I did not follow it very closely (it was too much), was this ever
> discussed and is there any good reason for this not working as I think
> most would expect?
There was a lot of ideas, but the only implementation I know of is the
one above. When it was discussed it was not a good time to install
something like this however. As it is right now I think it can be
installed - with some careful changes not to break things and keep the
changes traceable.
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* Re: How to get "emacsclient --eval x" to DWIM when Emacs is not started
2008-03-30 20:21 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-30 21:45 ` Mathias Dahl
@ 2008-03-30 22:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-30 22:55 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-31 7:44 ` Mathias Dahl
1 sibling, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2008-03-30 22:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lennart Borgman (gmail); +Cc: emacs-devel, Mathias Dahl
>> How can I get "emacsclient --eval x" to DWIM when Emacs is not
>> started? I have tried the following:
>>
>> emacsclient -e '(message "Hello!")' -a emacs
>>
>> But that does not work. What happens is that Emacs, when started as
>> the alternate editor, tries to open a file with the name ''(message
>> "Hello!").
>>
>> For normal operation, i.e. not using --eval but just for opening a
>> file, -a emacs works well and does what I expect. Why does not --eval
>> do the same? I have, of course, (server-start) in my .emacs file.
>>
>> As far as I can see, the manual does not mention this case.
> You can always try the patches I use for w32. It works fine for cases like
> the above though you just write something like
> emacsclient -e "(message \"hello\")"
I think it would be a good change for emacsclient to auto-start an Emacs
server if the server is not running yet.
I have not followed closely your work on this (other than knowing it
exists), so maybe if you can take your current code, bring it down to
the simplest/cleanest patch (ignore everything that can be added
later), we can start discussing it (in a new thread).
Stefan
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread* Re: How to get "emacsclient --eval x" to DWIM when Emacs is not started
2008-03-30 22:49 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2008-03-30 22:55 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-30 23:24 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-31 7:44 ` Mathias Dahl
1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) @ 2008-03-30 22:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: Juanma Barranquero, emacs-devel, Mathias Dahl
Stefan Monnier wrote:
>>> How can I get "emacsclient --eval x" to DWIM when Emacs is not
>>> started? I have tried the following:
>>>
>>> emacsclient -e '(message "Hello!")' -a emacs
>>>
>>> But that does not work. What happens is that Emacs, when started as
>>> the alternate editor, tries to open a file with the name ''(message
>>> "Hello!").
>>>
>>> For normal operation, i.e. not using --eval but just for opening a
>>> file, -a emacs works well and does what I expect. Why does not --eval
>>> do the same? I have, of course, (server-start) in my .emacs file.
>>>
>>> As far as I can see, the manual does not mention this case.
>
>> You can always try the patches I use for w32. It works fine for cases like
>> the above though you just write something like
>
>> emacsclient -e "(message \"hello\")"
>
> I think it would be a good change for emacsclient to auto-start an Emacs
> server if the server is not running yet.
>
> I have not followed closely your work on this (other than knowing it
> exists), so maybe if you can take your current code, bring it down to
> the simplest/cleanest patch (ignore everything that can be added
> later), we can start discussing it (in a new thread).
I hoped that Juanma should find some time to cooperate on this. I have
restructured the code, it is not the best one can find, but the
restructuring should help to understand what news it brings (I have
moved the GUI part to separate files and only have some "hooks" to it in
emacsclient.c).
Juanma, I think that it would be best to do some more restructuring off
the list just to avoid unnecessary noise. What do you think?
Anyone else interested in taking part please mail me.
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* Re: How to get "emacsclient --eval x" to DWIM when Emacs is not started
2008-03-30 22:55 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
@ 2008-03-30 23:24 ` Juanma Barranquero
0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2008-03-30 23:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lennart Borgman (gmail); +Cc: emacs-devel, Stefan Monnier, Mathias Dahl
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Lennart Borgman (gmail)
<lennart.borgman@gmail.com> wrote:
> Juanma, I think that it would be best to do some more restructuring off
> the list just to avoid unnecessary noise. What do you think?
After you sent me your code there were some changes to emacsclient.
Try to make as clean a version of your changes as you can (I mean, as
similar to what is in the CVS as possible) and I'll make time to look
at it this week.
Juanma
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* Re: How to get "emacsclient --eval x" to DWIM when Emacs is not started
2008-03-30 22:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-30 22:55 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
@ 2008-03-31 7:44 ` Mathias Dahl
2008-03-31 7:49 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Mathias Dahl @ 2008-03-31 7:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: Lennart Borgman (gmail), emacs-devel
> I think it would be a good change for emacsclient to auto-start an Emacs
> server if the server is not running yet.
When Emacs is used as alternate editor, why can't emacsclient simply
wait until it is started and then try doing the eval the user
requested with --eval? I already have (server-start) in my .emacs so
there is no need for emacsclient to start it.
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* Re: How to get "emacsclient --eval x" to DWIM when Emacs is not started
2008-03-31 7:44 ` Mathias Dahl
@ 2008-03-31 7:49 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) @ 2008-03-31 7:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mathias Dahl; +Cc: Stefan Monnier, emacs-devel
Mathias Dahl wrote:
>> I think it would be a good change for emacsclient to auto-start an Emacs
>> server if the server is not running yet.
>
> When Emacs is used as alternate editor, why can't emacsclient simply
> wait until it is started and then try doing the eval the user
> requested with --eval? I already have (server-start) in my .emacs so
> there is no need for emacsclient to start it.
That is part of the patch I have.
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