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From: "Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: defcustom and the stars.
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 20:30:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f7ccd24b0701041130w42a5014csc4eaa72ab76c7576@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <EIENLHALHGIMHGDOLMIMKEALCOAA.drew.adams@oracle.com>

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On 1/4/07, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:

> We should not worry about it because 1) it is unlikely to occur

Agreed.

> and 2) if it
> occurs, the consequences are not great

Agreed.

> and the effect will be seen soon enough.

Not agreed (it's not always evident that a variable is a user
variable, unless you look for it).

> Unless we're worrying about modifying doc strings by program, which you said
> you're not talking about here, I don't think there is a problem with saying
> only that any doc string that starts with an asterisk indicates a
> `set-variable' target.

I'm not talking about modifying docstrings by program, right now. But
I think the gist of Michaël's idea is good (for post-22.1): that
describe-variable should remove the asterisk (that's an implementation
artifact, and has no place in documentation), and indicate when a
variable is a user variable; it already says "You can customize this
variable" for defcustoms, doesn't it?

So, it's not only about "**text*..." cases, but also "*text*..." where
the user-variable'ness is unintended.

> I.e., I need to try to understand what you are saying, and it is what you
> mean that needs to be convincing to me, not just the words you use to convey
> it. I will try better to get your meaning.

Well, don't take too seriously my previous comment, please. :)

> That's obvious, perhaps, but I never imagined that an entire conversation
> could be conducted that way. Lisp cum lingua franca!

I'm not surprised Lisp is useful for that. It's the most expressive
programming language I've ever used (and comments do help... :)

                    /L/e/k/t/u

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-04 19:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-02 22:00 defcustom and the stars Michaël Cadilhac
2007-01-03  3:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-03 11:05   ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-01-03 12:24     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-03 12:49       ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-01-03 13:08         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-03 13:18           ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-01-03 13:29             ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-03 13:43               ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-01-03 13:57                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-03 14:52                   ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-01-03 18:47                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-03 20:57                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-03 21:21                       ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-01-03 21:26                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-04  2:31                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-04  2:31                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-04  7:34                       ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-01-04 17:08                         ` Drew Adams
2007-01-04 19:28                           ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-01-04 22:13                             ` Drew Adams
2007-01-04 22:50                               ` Stuart D. Herring
2007-01-04 22:58                                 ` Drew Adams
2007-01-08 17:51                                   ` Stuart D. Herring
2007-01-08 18:09                                     ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-01-08 18:32                                       ` Drew Adams
2007-01-08 18:46                                         ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-01-08 20:50                                           ` Chris Moore
2007-01-09  4:21                                             ` Drew Adams
2007-01-09 18:32                                               ` Chris Moore
2007-01-09 22:56                                                 ` Drew Adams
2007-01-10 15:15                                                   ` Chris Moore
2007-01-10 16:19                                                     ` Drew Adams
2007-01-10 18:44                                                       ` Chris Moore
2007-01-10 18:47                                                         ` Drew Adams
2007-01-08 18:26                                     ` Drew Adams
2007-01-05  6:36                               ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-01-05 15:15                                 ` Drew Adams
2007-01-04 22:33                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-03 18:17           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-01-03 18:34             ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-04  2:32     ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-04 16:57       ` Drew Adams
2007-01-04 17:10         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-04 17:16           ` Drew Adams
2007-01-04 17:39             ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-04 18:22               ` Drew Adams
2007-01-04 19:30                 ` Juanma Barranquero [this message]
2007-01-04 22:32                   ` Drew Adams
2007-01-04 22:49                     ` Drew Adams
2007-01-04 23:12                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-05  1:01                       ` Drew Adams
2007-01-05  1:09                         ` Juanma Barranquero

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