From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Juanma Barranquero" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: National Language Support Functions Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 02:10:55 +0100 Message-ID: References: <458AB581.7090303@student.lu.se> <45957F23.8040409@gmail.com> <45958D3B.4060207@gmail.com> <45959540.407@gmail.com> <4595AF66.2030602@gmail.com> <4595B600.3000008@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1167441079 15765 80.91.229.12 (30 Dec 2006 01:11:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 01:11:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 30 02:11:19 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1H0Skm-00040e-7t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 02:11:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H0Skl-0002Y1-KB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:11:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1H0SkV-0002WJ-VJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:11:00 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1H0SkT-0002TN-9P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:10:58 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H0SkT-0002TB-54 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:10:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [64.233.182.190] (helo=nf-out-0910.google.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H0SkS-0008Pn-PW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:10:56 -0500 Original-Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d4so5849620nfe for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:10:56 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LSoWbIe5iC9ALJbPhVxdC0lKo9MfEIayVWvmPm1UVkiULyoQ763nsUkjZiN+m+vlJSkxxQ0IwfBQ4WaL37jl/PfHcxlqvveYsJGSXUaTF1i+TMJDsQ3plkb9mFgjWWZAOFCwQgE4BVSLoKsd0tBL39/JohzH17Lfa54a9odzosU= Original-Received: by 10.82.153.5 with SMTP id a5mr3184661bue.1167441056078; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:10:56 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.82.147.2 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:10:55 -0800 (PST) Original-To: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" In-Reply-To: <4595B600.3000008@gmail.com> Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:64470 Archived-At: On 12/30/06, Lennart Borgman (gmail) wrote: > Of course I did not say that. What made you think that? When asked about your distribution, you used as argument that more people downloaded your patched Emacs than the unpatched one. What's the purpose of that comment? > It may be that not many people except me think it is a problem loosing > work when logging off. Perhaps they do not think of what they done once > they logged off? Or maybe they never do. I certainly log off, and I've never lost data that way. Perhaps I'm used to exiting Emacs (and other programs) before logging off. That's not to say you're not pointing out a real problem (in fact, I've never seen your patch, but a priori it seems like a good idea). > Maybe you are right, but as far as I remember there was no one saying > that it is very important to be able to use the Windows keys for example > to start Explorer from inside Emacs. But I might be mistaken of course. I fail to see the flood of complaints about Emacs' use of Alt, too. > What about accessibility guidelines? Important. Not a specific goal, AFAICS. I don't think use of alt is the only problem in that regard. And remapping of keys for accessibility reasons can (and perhaps should) be done outside Emacs, with other tools. /L/e/k/t/u