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From: "Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Switching to Subversion
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 00:37:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f7ccd24b0611121537y667def5ehbf76ae48f2ab6c95@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ac2w45e0.fsf@catnip.gol.com>

On 11/13/06, Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> wrote:

> He provides pretty good arguments _against_ subversion

Based on false statements, like this one:

"The old Berkeley DB-based backend has been deprecated as unstable and
subject to corruption [..."

FSFS is the default, but the BDB backend was never "deprecated as
unstable". And, in the ChangeLog of the latest release, there's this
bit of information:

  A common problem with previous versions of Subversion is that
  crashed server processes could leave BerkeleyDB-based
  repositories in an unusable "wedged" state, requiring
  administrators to manually intervene and bring back online.
  (Note: this is not due to bugs in BerkeleyDB, but due to the
  unorthodox way in which Subversion uses it!)

  Subversion 1.4 can now be compiled against BerkeleyDB 4.4,
  which has a new "auto-recovery" feature. If a Subversion server
  process crashes and leaves the repository in an inconsistent
  state, the next process which attempts to access the repository
  will notice the problem, grab exclusive control of the
  repository, and automatically recover it. In theory (and in our
  testing), this new feature makes BerkeleyDB-based repositories
  just as wedge-proof as FSFS repositories.

>    And yes, Havoc, anyone seriously entertaining moving to SVN should have
>    their heads examined.

Ah, yes, a good technical argument.

                    /L/e/k/t/u

  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-12 23:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-04 11:40 CVS commits and logs Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-04 12:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-04 12:53   ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-04 13:23     ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-04 13:44       ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-04 13:57         ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-04 14:37           ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-04 16:06             ` Reiner Steib
2006-11-04 22:30               ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-05 19:22               ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-05  7:08         ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-05 21:22           ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-04 22:28   ` Jason Rumney
2006-11-05  6:13     ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-05  7:08 ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-05 23:15 ` Bill Wohler
2006-11-06  2:30   ` Miles Bader
2006-11-06 16:08     ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-06 19:38       ` Miles Bader
2006-11-07 16:47         ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-07 22:44           ` Miles Bader
2006-11-09  0:53             ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-09  4:47               ` Miles Bader
2006-11-09  6:01                 ` Bill Wohler
2006-11-11  2:11                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-11  3:24                   ` Miles Bader
2006-11-11 10:03                     ` Andreas Schwab
2006-11-11 12:51                       ` Miles Bader
2006-11-11 17:00                         ` Switching to Subversion (was: CVS commits and logs) Bill Wohler
2006-11-11 20:00                           ` Switching to Subversion Romain Francoise
2006-11-12  1:20                             ` Bill Wohler
2006-11-12 11:26                               ` Romain Francoise
2006-11-12 21:12                               ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-12 21:20                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-11-12 21:49                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-12 22:45                                   ` Miles Bader
2006-11-12 23:17                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-12 23:29                                       ` Miles Bader
2006-11-12 23:40                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-12 23:59                                           ` Miles Bader
2006-11-13  8:02                                         ` stephen
2006-11-13 12:38                                           ` Bruce Stephens
2006-11-13 20:26                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-12 21:39                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-12 22:43                                   ` Sascha Wilde
2006-11-12 23:22                                     ` Miles Bader
2006-11-12 23:37                                       ` Juanma Barranquero [this message]
2006-11-12 23:54                                         ` Miles Bader
2006-11-12 23:58                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-13  0:15                                             ` Miles Bader
2006-11-13  1:20                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-13 16:26                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-11-13 16:53                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-13 16:59                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-13 20:13                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2006-11-14  4:50                                                       ` Bill Wohler
2006-11-14  6:49                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2006-11-27 21:42                                                       ` Jari Aalto
2006-11-28  4:52                                                         ` Miles Bader
2006-11-28 12:06                                                           ` Jari Aalto
2006-11-13  8:41                                       ` Sascha Wilde
2006-11-13  8:50                                         ` David Kastrup
2006-11-13  8:59                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-13  9:11                                           ` Sascha Wilde
2006-11-13  9:26                                             ` David Kastrup
2006-11-13  9:53                                               ` dhruva
2006-11-13 10:55                                                 ` Thomas Arendsen Hein
2006-11-28 11:29                                                 ` Jari Aalto
2006-11-13 12:38                                               ` Sascha Wilde
2006-11-13 12:40                                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-14  2:27                                                   ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2006-11-13 12:55                                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-11-13 14:49                                                   ` Sascha Wilde
2006-11-13 14:57                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-13  8:51                                         ` Miles Bader
2006-11-13 11:43                                           ` Thomas Arendsen Hein
2006-11-13 12:31                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-13 13:16                                             ` Miles Bader
2006-11-13 13:35                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-13 13:54                                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-11-13 14:08                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-14  3:53                                                 ` Bill Wohler
2006-11-13 14:46                                               ` Sascha Wilde
2006-11-13 22:31                                                 ` Miles Bader
2006-11-13 22:44                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-14  6:38                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2006-11-13 11:20                                       ` Thomas Arendsen Hein
2006-11-13 13:11                                         ` Miles Bader
2006-11-13 14:51                                           ` Sascha Wilde
2006-11-13 16:55                                           ` Thomas Arendsen Hein
2006-11-13 22:37                                             ` Miles Bader
2006-11-13 20:15                                       ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-14  2:49                                         ` Miles Bader
2006-11-13  8:47                                   ` joakim
2006-11-13  8:56                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-13  9:05                                       ` joakim
2006-11-14  4:55                                     ` Bill Wohler
2006-11-13 20:15                                   ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-14  1:53                                 ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2006-11-14  2:10                                   ` Masatake YAMATO
2006-11-14  3:05                                   ` Eric Hanchrow
2006-11-14  3:23                                     ` Miles Bader
2006-11-12  5:14                     ` CVS commits and logs Richard Stallman
2006-11-12  9:45                       ` Miles Bader
2006-11-13  9:44                         ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-07 18:07       ` Reiner Steib
2006-11-07 20:33         ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-08  1:50           ` Miles Bader
2006-11-11  9:43             ` Reiner Steib
2006-11-06  4:21   ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-11-14 20:16 Switching to Subversion Jim Blandy

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