From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Juanma Barranquero" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Large changes in emacsclient Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 12:28:45 +0100 Message-ID: References: <853b93bjkb.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1162466994 27145 80.91.229.2 (2 Nov 2006 11:29:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 11:29:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 02 12:29:51 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfala-0007ca-Ac for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 12:29:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfalZ-0005jx-S8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 06:29:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GfalH-0005b7-4f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 06:29:31 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GfalF-0005Ze-M2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 06:29:30 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfalF-0005Z2-67 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 06:29:29 -0500 Original-Received: from [64.233.182.188] (helo=nf-out-0910.google.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gfal9-0006Gw-T4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 06:29:24 -0500 Original-Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id q29so1108168nfc for ; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 03:28:46 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JqMjhR0Lnq4UDkZnapGSgWjPWI4ERVmrnUgf1GfPodwxKaMCwuk9/HceVw+4Biuc9hFF9qMfQIgvL0tzHwR5fWxwqPEC+DbKvsrdO9iS8iZAeWhZqhaiz7AvOAnbbiHNKLrXcLtt9FbCjY+/1moDvi4LDiYu31LLdwBAV/scrro= Original-Received: by 10.82.114.3 with SMTP id m3mr60565buc.1162466925736; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 03:28:45 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.82.136.11 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 03:28:45 -0800 (PST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:61604 Archived-At: On 11/2/06, Richard Stallman wrote: > But people should have asked me > before installing such a troublesome change at this late date. >>From http://tinyurl.com/yb349k : "I did some work on this, which I left aside because of the 100% CPU bug. I'd be willing to continue with it (assuming the bug is fixed), but I cannot promise I won't miss the "start of the pretesting" deadline, if it is that imminent as it does appear." >>From http://tinyurl.com/yk8s5z : "As I said earlier, I intend to work on it, but I don't think I'll hit the pretest target (if the date is "beginning of September")." Eli answered: "Since your work is about fixing a feature that was broken, there should be no problem to install the fix even after the pretest starts." In http://tinyurl.com/yknek2 Kim said: "IMO, we should add the tcp support in Emacs 22 (before the next pretest)." Eli answered: "Agreed." On http://tinyurl.com/yblncc Jason said: "OTOH, perhaps it is already too late to consider this for release, and Windows users will have to continue to use gnuclient until Emacs 23 is released." On http://tinyurl.com/y5j3jy I said: "BTW, I'd *really* like for someone to test the changes and comment on my other questions. Otherwise, I'm just gonna commit the code and wait for the fireworks :)" Stefan answered: "Please do so". On http://tinyurl.com/sjyxx I said: "(Note: I'm beating this into shape with the idea of installing it in the next few days; I sure hope the pretest is not a problem...)" I got no answer to that last one. So, even if you're technically correct in that I didn't specifically asked for your permission, the issue was discussed several times in public (and, in some cases, in threads you participated, like the one discussing using (random t) for server.el). In all cases I was encouraged to commit the patch. Moreover, I resent the "troublesome" bit of your comment. All in all, the emacsclient/server patch is quite small, and most issues have been related to simple configuration issues that I had no way to test (and said so) and that have been trivially fixed. /L/e/k/t/u