From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: thumbs.el and transparency Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 12:23:02 +0100 Message-ID: References: <17366.53124.274532.548329@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <87y814vhxj.fsf@jurta.org> <17367.17105.271024.157799@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17369.17978.521026.397616@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17369.59246.383626.699005@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17372.1305.835753.613893@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1138621299 13593 80.91.229.2 (30 Jan 2006 11:41:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:41:39 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 30 12:41:38 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F3XPX-0001YD-W2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 12:41:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F3XQx-0002Xp-6k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 06:42:59 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1F3XHb-0008Kk-EF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 06:33:20 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1F3XDs-0007Et-Fe for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 06:29:30 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F3XAf-0005w6-IG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 06:26:09 -0500 Original-Received: from [66.249.92.206] (helo=uproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F3X8x-00044H-Fc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 06:24:23 -0500 Original-Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id u2so797264uge for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 03:23:03 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EObYj7RfHBI8sUJKu7zlhgd9guXErfcI860OcGDKOk5Ft2+r8xxJTB9jSX/Nq+vz+HIzpt7EfadD1evzEEO0NfzLIt16aW9bWMqzTICALnkNfqv+AwAw73tQ5vX9JUaAiIL5EAq8IibVeM7nONR8+BBmu2y5VYDXsyO44WkS3nw= Original-Received: by 10.48.199.13 with SMTP id w13mr317827nff; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 03:23:03 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.48.255.15 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 03:23:02 -0800 (PST) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:49746 Archived-At: On 1/30/06, Kim F. Storm wrote: > E.g. tumme.el (which even the author says is "not complete") was added > in December 2005 -- who knows when _that_ is ready for release? I've been hesitating to add a tiny feature^ to bs.el... and suddenly rcirc.el (75 KiB, 1,672 non-comment, non-blank lines) is included. Then tumme.el (99 KiB, 1,783 lines). Then erc, with a whopping 35 files, 657 KiB and 13,818 lines of code... Note: I have nothing against these packages, they seem to be fine pieces of code; it's just that adding them does not seem very consistent with having a feature freeze. I suppose we're due for another round of the same discussion (or perhaps not). Sorry, but the old arguments are progressively less and less convincing to me. I'm unable to find a definition of "freeze" that's both meaningful and representative of what's happening on the Emacs CVS trunk. /L/e/k/t/u ^Using header-line-format to display the *buffer-selection* header, instead of (or additionally to) the current method of inserting the headers as text in the selection buffer.