From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: theming Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:00:04 +0200 Message-ID: References: <42CC7021.5050606@student.lu.se> <42CCD07F.5010509@student.lu.se> <42CD1D70.7070601@student.lu.se> <42CD331F.4060604@student.lu.se> Reply-To: Juanma Barranquero NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1120745486 27171 80.91.229.2 (7 Jul 2005 14:11:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:11:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 07 16:11:18 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DqX4b-00039D-Fo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:09:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DqX5y-0006Wr-5W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:11:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DqX4T-0006B5-SA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:09:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DqX4J-00066D-QS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:09:41 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DqX4I-00061U-6f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:09:34 -0400 Original-Received: from [64.233.182.194] (helo=nproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DqX1a-0007iy-Le for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:06:46 -0400 Original-Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id g2so52245nfe for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:00:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mo+6ePAHcFlbuFstpf0Hjs/sMhWllWkXroaRDvDloOGIafIpol2q4dylAOKZ9V+EMutWe8ut35ziyoKkT6fDVoOExbMrSI9KSoQmq++vOrfBPKIUUkE95cu7CYd8U90sEJs0RdHWrt/gP1ecvYr+gXeNpNlmCl8qHVTsSG0jqbU= Original-Received: by 10.48.4.10 with SMTP id 10mr32841nfd; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:00:04 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.48.250.5 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:00:04 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: Lennart Borgman In-Reply-To: <42CD331F.4060604@student.lu.se> Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:40563 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:40563 On 7/7/05, Lennart Borgman wrote: > A very, very wild idea, a save excursion for loading so to say: could > all the setting and defining functions be defadviced during loading of > such packages in such a way that they saved old states of symbols in a > list called say "previous-state" where there are entries for "CEDET" > etc. Then you could just use this list to reset the values. Perhaps? On one hand, I think that's similar to what Luc was proposing for the custom-themes issue. On the other, that doesn't avoid what I'm complaining about: you should be able to use a big package and decide which bits are useful to you and which are not. Although on another level, look at cua, for example: you can decide whether you want C-c, C-x, C-v bindings, rectangles, etc. on a feature-by-feature basis. I dislike modules that take hold of your environment (particularly the frame/window setup) or else they refuse to cooperate. --=20 /L/e/k/t/u