From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: theming Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:31:04 +0200 Message-ID: References: <42CC7021.5050606@student.lu.se> <42CCD07F.5010509@student.lu.se> <42CD1D70.7070601@student.lu.se> Reply-To: Juanma Barranquero NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1120743954 21792 80.91.229.2 (7 Jul 2005 13:45:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:45:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, "John S. Yates, Jr." Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 07 15:45:44 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DqWgy-0007A2-Kv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:45:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DqWiL-0006fO-73 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:46:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DqWcO-0003l7-2K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:40:45 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DqWcD-0003gR-FE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:40:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DqWc8-0003V2-7j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:40:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [64.233.182.202] (helo=nproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DqWZW-0005By-Ow for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:37:46 -0400 Original-Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i2so50088nfe for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 06:31:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fshEazPPJ7wFwaQCNzWZHn7rRhjjsM4BcvCPalsf9ZUlSuDF7bxjP+d87kcGHvNOcZGCAlminhODP52NXkRoKg8IHmNBKBpDGCPAS2ZNS159iL5+Av09vuKeLGr48yaN+HQiswNSMlG69ulEamA2AFdziQ76jy+stJnk6yVbQWk= Original-Received: by 10.48.144.4 with SMTP id r4mr31493nfd; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 06:31:04 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.48.250.5 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 06:31:04 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: Lennart Borgman In-Reply-To: <42CD1D70.7070601@student.lu.se> Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:40560 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:40560 > I agree to whole message. I have written EmacsW32 just for this above. Much as I like the idea of prepackaged distributions for normal, non-developer users, the problem I see with many "big" Emacs projects (like TinyTools, CEDET, JDEE, etc) is that they are much of an all-or-nothing. You install one of them, you are no longer in Emacs, but someone's pet idea of what Emacs should look like (yeah, even if they have a ton or two of customization options). Nothing bat per se, but I already have my pet Emacs and we've learnt to live with each other, thanks ;-) > It would be better if this idea was merged into Emacs. I think however > that it has to coexist with themes in some way and perhaps themes can be > the underlying structure for this. Being themeable is necessary. Being non-monolithic is fundamental, IMO. --=20 /L/e/k/t/u