From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "Clément Pit-Claudel" <cpitclaudel@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: Idea: Be able to use text properties as face attributes
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2017 16:26:55 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f6e6b6c5-3282-4026-a0c0-fe784d8b0200@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3b32260c-8ad1-2cd2-f387-bf3df3322354@gmail.com>
> > That might be another possible enhancement. But I think
> > that is already possible using an anonymous face (see
> > (elisp) `Special Properties'):
> > (put-text-property 30 42 'face '(:family "Palatino"))
> > Is there something else you were thinking of here?
>
> Not much: it's just an idea I had while reading your post. it seems
> somewhat arbitrary to add a level of indirection for certain properties (if
> I want to make some text bold, I need to append to its 'face property —
> whereas if I want to make it invisible, I can just apply 'invisible to it.
> Maybe the two concepts would gain from being unified ?
OK. As I said, that is really a separate enhancement. I have
no problem with it. But for now we already have a way to set
properties, including such face-attribute properties, at
individual text locations. What we do not have is a way to
set properties at all locations of a given face.
> > Maybe you could elaborate, e.g., with a (fictitious) example?
> > Maybe show what else you think is needed for that, beyond
> > what I suggested.
>
> I think your proposal would make what I described possible :)
I don't see how. It seems like another code change would be
needed to support it. Not that both could not be done at the
same time, but I don't see that what I suggested, by itself,
would also realize what you suggest.
> I was describing a possible generalization of it ((1) suppressing
> the distinction between text properties and face properties, and
> (2) generalizing faces to be collections of arbitrary text properties —
> your proposal is essentially (2), and I think it enables the conceptual
> cleanup (1)).
Like my suggestion, the conceptual change would require both a
code change (to support it) and a doc change (to express it).
If both enhancements were made at the same time then yes, the
doc change for my suggestion would be different. Again, a
priori I have nothing against (someone) making both changes.
Thanks for thinking about this.
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2017-03-26 19:14 Idea: Be able to use text properties as face attributes Drew Adams
2017-03-26 20:01 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-03-26 21:42 ` Drew Adams
2017-03-26 22:14 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-03-26 23:26 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2017-03-27 1:23 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-03-27 14:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-27 4:51 ` Drew Adams
2017-03-27 14:01 ` Drew Adams
2017-03-27 14:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2017-03-27 15:49 ` Drew Adams
2017-03-27 18:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2017-03-27 20:01 ` Drew Adams
2017-03-28 15:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-28 15:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-28 21:40 ` Drew Adams
2017-03-28 22:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-28 23:10 ` Drew Adams
2017-03-29 1:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-29 5:32 ` Drew Adams
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2017-03-28 21:39 ` Drew Adams
2017-03-27 7:56 ` Yuri Khan
2017-03-27 14:01 ` Drew Adams
2017-03-27 14:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2017-03-28 21:39 ` Drew Adams
2017-03-29 14:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-29 15:21 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-03-29 15:36 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-03-29 17:08 ` Drew Adams
2017-03-29 15:41 ` Andreas Politz
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2017-03-29 17:06 ` Drew Adams
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