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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c0c::244 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:220855 Archived-At: On 12/9/17 5:43 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > If a particular indent-line-function needs to widen, then yes, it will > need to do that by itself, and if that gets in the way of MMM, then > the widening will have to be conditional. That sounds surprisingly more complex than the whole solution that I'm proposing. > (I thought that prog-widen and prog-indentation-context were a means > to solve this, isn't that so?) It was one of the goals, but that approach comes with certain inherent, as well as certain incidental, drawbacks.