From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Oliver Scholz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Saving markup formats Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 02:08:38 +0200 Message-ID: References: <871wgi9jzb.fsf@jidanni.org> <87odjlwpu1.fsf@jurta.org> <87ir9r1m99.fsf@jurta.org> <87myz2i9tj.fsf@jurta.org> <87r6ocx0tk.fsf_-_@jurta.org> <87d4zuyvn6.fsf@gmx.de> <87fy4prmdf.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1182298149 20454 80.91.229.12 (20 Jun 2007 00:09:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 00:09:09 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 20 02:09:06 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I0nkv-0003PH-N3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2007 02:09:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0nkv-0000tu-8s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:09:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I0nkr-0000rW-LU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:09:01 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I0nkq-0000nR-0w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:09:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0nkp-0000nC-Ui for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:08:59 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I0nkp-000161-Gn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:08:59 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1I0nkg-0005GZ-9X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2007 02:08:50 +0200 Original-Received: from dslb-084-058-051-064.pools.arcor-ip.net ([84.58.51.64]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2007 02:08:50 +0200 Original-Received: from alkibiades by dslb-084-058-051-064.pools.arcor-ip.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2007 02:08:50 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 24 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dslb-084-058-051-064.pools.arcor-ip.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:73364 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > This is a very bad thing; a _reliable_ word > processor---as opposed to an unreliable hack---shouldn't make any > changes to the logical structure of a document unless explicitly > ordered to do it. > > I reject that position (as well as the gratuitous insult tacked onto > it) It was not meant as an insult; by "unreliable hack" I was refering to my own first implementation. Of course, I was also referring to a general implementation strategy, still "insult" seems a bit strong. I'll try to refrain from further discussing this issue. I have to admit that from memory I can't think of any case where the approach you describe would fail with RTF---at least with the help of markup text in a buffer. My personal opinions are of no concern here. Oliver -- 2 Messidor an 215 de la Révolution Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité!