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[73.126.99.55]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o124-v6sm12167365qkd.61.2018.08.01.07.59.30 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 01 Aug 2018 07:59:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-GB X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::230 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:228083 Archived-At: On 2018-07-31 16:17, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> This sounds like a good idea, but I think it'd be even better to put >> that information in the modeline of the window above the minibuffer, >> rather than in the minibuffer itself. > > My minibuffer lives in its own frame, with no obvious "window above". > > [ At startup, there is no modeline at all. Admittedly, by the time > read-passwd gets called, there will probably be some frame displaying > a window with modeline somewhere, but the point is that there's no > clear modeline attached to the minibuffer, in general. ] Sure, but we don't necessarily need it to work in all cases. How does eldoc do in your case? Clément.