From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Have you all gone crazy? Was: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 08:47:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: References: <87388bnzha.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87k31mdbhe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0qiv45.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9wqd3i5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87h9wqimf0.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87y4q1fekv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419180505 5357 80.91.229.3 (21 Dec 2014 16:48:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 16:48:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk, asr@ufl.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup , Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 21 17:48:19 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2jfy-00018K-Vu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 17:48:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37730 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2jfy-0001TL-Gz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 11:48:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44483) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2jfo-0001TB-Md for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 11:48:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2jfh-00044S-9e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 11:48:04 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:18603) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2jfh-000448-3E; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 11:47:57 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id sBLGlt1P023627 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 21 Dec 2014 16:47:55 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id sBLGlrqZ017713 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 21 Dec 2014 16:47:54 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0011.oracle.com (abhmp0011.oracle.com [141.146.116.17]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id sBLGlrRa014531; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 16:47:53 GMT In-Reply-To: <87y4q1fekv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180430 Archived-At: > > > > > > is painful to scroll around even locally loaded. > > > > Could you expand on that point? >=20 > It's a very long page, with text and images interspersed all the > time. The downloading and rendering for the images takes a while, > changing the browser's idea of the sizes all the time (maybe Texinfo > should declare the geometry of images in the HTML if it doesn't > already). As a result of the large and potentially not yet completely > rendered page (probably corresponding to hundreds of printed pages), > scrolling (via scroll bar) is not responsive in a graphical browser. > Stuff like incremental searches also tend to react rather sluggish. FWIW, I see no such sluggishness at that page, using Google Chrome. The page loaded seemingly instantaneously, and both scroll-bar scrolling and incremental search (C-f in Chrome) also seem instantaneous. Am I missing something? Did you means something different from this?