From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rename "window" to "pane" (after Emacs 27) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 21:53:48 +0300 Message-ID: References: <878sjgbbot.fsf@oitofelix.com> <1900ccca-6f14-4a69-944a-f4264195bb25@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="93280"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.4.1 To: Drew Adams , sds@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 03 20:55:44 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jKRTj-000O9t-PI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 03 Apr 2020 20:55:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59832 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jKRTi-0004J6-Qs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 03 Apr 2020 14:55:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53674) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jKRRx-0002Gj-KD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Apr 2020 14:53:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jKRRw-0000Vi-KL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Apr 2020 14:53:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wr1-x42a.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::42a]:38316) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jKRRw-0000US-ER; Fri, 03 Apr 2020 14:53:52 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wr1-x42a.google.com with SMTP id c7so9720986wrx.5; Fri, 03 Apr 2020 11:53:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3RgpZkaezbV3JZlEFHd47v8+2flRcogSU3woyZayp+A=; b=lVas0i+Rq7IInvLuC9HGYwUMgTxwWWWuYJkOxrp1i6dwF5A54EsOb6FoWWx5wH2w29 B2Z4FxkG+MIGAGRKx8FPCv6VLBOUE5+MxSZBC8Oocw9G+nldd7aDPrXHOzYI9zsmg1wg nlRbk6jkCJL17wzfbPb1vJlCDRwKkt3BvH8d2sMYoaXKY0L6gHdRPUXmv3b+IX/wIcQ+ qkBR9OTb6BHlTHVXpwBfRSamxueA6joNKn1wZR7gh/rKwELGx16URpR5lMYP6w77fLgm 4w61TaE7H5FGKdyj3ofAWcn5D9a//Bsob1jqA4vhFyaQGVECNlLQbjLBF49YHqSnZC6i o1+A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3RgpZkaezbV3JZlEFHd47v8+2flRcogSU3woyZayp+A=; b=lxyjGeNKYdbNupCPfta49b6ue/OYpdVtrcl/RgbYm/4P5v3y1Wvr0ReFmjqjZBMZ79 0iFR3DDiSEMH0qC9gsef/I/WzXUEBPBEm+G3zjZScwl5ABBvcYbo1PbcS1GjJUumuFTQ FkJlDOQmExuRckdHxbwpSuij5VWQLLtNMGDH1UqVXj18lWhaFsSbryUMjBvjNRXzUT1f vROTlUw69zAsEPYE/AkM0GJefW5hCRpmq5UOU5GcsJOVHEiiAFRG2/uMJ5BPm/1gytMp 3DEVlfirvSUG9Ngeah6rkkk27qJZabHPE2GXfaYHt1SuNqqEwTQzTv4V0yN4S79dj8ds ZuTg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuZP9jrAaIvpTLPchPIHwUV7tmmuuSAz/lGwKaqyWo1mo9WbdZC6 ZQDYSXMYJSHmvqo2nrRB0JhiH4ZF4qo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypIp1TEe/WXbqvzcrm75fqOf91lWj3xj0/LiK9q9bgoi07ywFbkecka0ExQjgNpomV1aEt/ORg== X-Received: by 2002:adf:8286:: with SMTP id 6mr73842wrc.222.1585940030788; Fri, 03 Apr 2020 11:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([66.205.73.129]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id o16sm13316308wrw.75.2020.04.03.11.53.49 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 03 Apr 2020 11:53:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1900ccca-6f14-4a69-944a-f4264195bb25@default> Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::42a X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:246359 Archived-At: On 03.04.2020 21:34, Drew Adams wrote: > Oh, and BTW, in the jargon of web browsers and HTML > there is even a notion of "frame" which is, in a way, > akin to an Emacs window: HTML element . > IOW, in a way, the two terms are swapped, to the > extent that anyone even uses "frame" outside Emacs. > (Element isn't used much anymore.) iframes are still used, and will continue to be used for years. The terms are swapped, yes. If they weren't swapped (and just one of them had an "unusual" meaning in Emacs), that would have been less of a problem.