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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254126 Archived-At: On 2020-08-22 16:19, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 16:13:52 +0100 >> From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> > Skipping a test and failing a test is not the same. You are looking >> > for failures: tests that should have succeeded, but didn't. >> >> Indeed not. But, skipping a test because something is not compiled in >> is >> wrong iff the feature is supposed to be compiled in. Running "make >> check" on my windows build machine will only pick up errors with json >> parsing if libjansson was installed. > > That's a separate problem. If you want to be able to detect it as > well, you'd probably need a separate test for features that appear in > system-configuration-features. > >> I still think that the windows binary distribution is unnecessarily >> complicated, based on the msys2 dependencies as given. > > I agree, but if you want to depend on MSYS2 dependency tracking, > that's part of the price, no? Yes. And I am happy to experiment with alternatives. But I want something to be able to test the binary distributions that the alternatives would produce. So where are we up to? w32-features.el? In lisp/ or etc/ Phil