From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "New user" customize group? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294587 Archived-At: On 20.04.2022 18:54, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Some settings which new users are most likely to be interested in >> changing: the theme, the default face, enabling cua-mode, linum-mode, >> tab-bar-mode, etc. > Those are your opinions. I'm sure many will disagree and point out > other settings new users will most likely want to customize. For > example, CUA and tab bars are probably quite controversial. > > That said, I wouldn't want to discourage anyone from trying to come up > with such a group, so feel free to work on that, and thank you for > your interest in Emacs and its new users. > I've just looked through the list of proposed choices on https://emacs.amodernist.com/ (it has come up on Reddit again), and that set looks pretty reasonable. At least the sections General and Programming. Maybe Writing as well. The rest seems not so widely applicable.