From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs Date: Sat, 2 May 2020 19:53:27 +0300 Message-ID: References: <831ro2tqqx.fsf@gnu.org> <4a1fd3f4-df92-c756-9874-4d07b54148ac@yandex.ru> <83v9lesapw.fsf@gnu.org> <83pnbms9m8.fsf@gnu.org> <83a72qs4z2.fsf@gnu.org> <83wo5uqoh5.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="115910"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 Cc: rms@gnu.org, joaotavora@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Philippe Vaucher Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 02 18:55:03 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jUvPr-000U3V-LH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 18:55:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35726 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUvPq-0002Vx-M3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 12:55:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55478) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUvOR-0000Qn-09 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 12:53:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUvOQ-0002Rd-Ky for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 12:53:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wm1-x336.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::336]:40425) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUvOO-0002QB-QI; Sat, 02 May 2020 12:53:32 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wm1-x336.google.com with SMTP id u16so3704052wmc.5; Sat, 02 May 2020 09:53:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xN6NFD070hEDmM985BTZ+W/8jECWQzdMMiT7wf7GHzs=; b=Rmke/vrCQWnmQMvGOqKxWRsFGIIDR8KuVCkvmOI3S44UuULDgmxTB+fdILPJMjZfUi etZptjzoDk/DCoz0Vzu7uZqm7Sq22ZAsakReqcGwG6BuA+bq4LBxYptDaJhCXyMDU2ur pX6Q6t2te7dp3GNFD/RdzgFubw85h+3zHFwef+nnXdQDG4k8Oxfzuguu/lpBxQgs1skt KxcGmsnqQJ4iIQ0frxd8PkzBH+Qza7+tU53a3O2XoHBe2XAGwogU9RGrbHW1yNmoVCcv Mfs3TQF+LO++h4faaF2krzd49fvxUrO1EybhAiz4AQKJbRvFPi0RKTrVEbFxDbWhVOBv Ue5A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xN6NFD070hEDmM985BTZ+W/8jECWQzdMMiT7wf7GHzs=; b=UyKZYdWE1MpyJrc5GJlMwcchIkNJ7f8UTyPz5l8NTH5cjFAvXI0lbhtdjn37wX+Yjz Km2GV68RCBe+eWBN7+baxm+v2Gd7CZrMf6gRq/5/v7APWfHAI6bySgyGWoXi7W/zDOM/ d7WJyTK672kHO7sC0AwXaJzUhV2TYdr3BOG0Vxih5Hnx7cwi0SFFhB0Gf96IcMK6Gp1P S6yPRH4y9zkiTTnkGrLKp0S47fsdUseUtCtSRKBiaxrk/IpB6Q6FVccU+xt3j96yz+tv kp9sTcF/RwdBLUZnbS9lwrzsTOBfkdXTx0a0ikRQyk47UamP+HM8nJVUcqBYk2W9rkat AD/g== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0Pub0mZb39ATrArCyWBfZpyx0K38f5BOIoCviVABK6K5/kzUDDvfF wHFJDVJvZy7TpVdelE123Vt0odKfuac= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypK55TV8w8EWjaOUHuXXPNPg4vOZnwVNDq1xH+zijZEqCZI7xzFUDHD2UONITYZRTJfTV7A+rg== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:5402:: with SMTP id i2mr5165678wmb.2.1588438409717; Sat, 02 May 2020 09:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.0.3] ([66.205.73.129]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id x18sm4927861wmi.29.2020.05.02.09.53.28 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 02 May 2020 09:53:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83wo5uqoh5.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::336; envelope-from=raaahh@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x336.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: [-] PROGRAM ABORT : Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). Location : parse_addr6(), p0f-client.c:67 X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::336 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248498 Archived-At: On 02.05.2020 19:40, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Look at the list of methods on the left, which you can click and it makes you jump to the complete >> description. I miss that list in Emacs. > Why? If you already know what method you want to look up, just use > "C-h f" or "i" in Info. If you do NOT know the name of the method, > how do you know which method to click on? You look over the list, and either notice the word you wanted inside one of the function names, or look at the names one by one, in the worst case, and recall that one of them is what you need. It might be a different skill, but it's one we already have (by the necessity of dealing with a number of other languages). Looking over a list of 50-60 entries like that takes only a few seconds, and that's longer than dealing with the manual.