From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: A modern-mode? Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 17:35:22 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29346"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Andrea Corallo To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 15 19:44:39 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kIF0P-0007Uh-T6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 19:44:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43482 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIF0O-0007yM-Tj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 13:44:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49252) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIErg-0004Jw-Gi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 13:35:36 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp2120.oracle.com ([141.146.126.78]:55194) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIErd-0005Rr-Tz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 13:35:36 -0400 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (aserp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 08FHSuA0018897; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 17:35:27 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : cc : subject : references : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2020-01-29; bh=qgz+jiES33pRU/IaPtC79mJJAhV2mDWggyGEkqPlevQ=; b=WMwX1tNCKeOEGqUYmuvhN9Hb4q5qO7dhM2VnLc1AZyZNOPp+32V+b2Is/eAhe7aacAe/ wFkOJHEeH4c0b6AWvkVvv1fCnO2kZhrMoQdlvnWS8rMwuL6JfqfSaAhIFa6/7SKKUonQ MZCLyHIApkz9XUcaz+1E7htXexkqipurYEbP3DXJfhCSXzVb0Hawo5hlvwHaNz8gSAxi 6DnSZkDyPYv34nlzz1C4Cho9D0k1cHRM/Dheb76g2MXNo22rV9siby2hDIVIZyIj6RDw l27bPi+1Gk4gQmnVeOR52NeL6wZJSDDcdHUni4JrpuqS0m4Y34cQgOOpCseoIrSXmt1r 1w== Original-Received: from aserp3020.oracle.com (aserp3020.oracle.com [141.146.126.70]) by aserp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 33gp9m6jnj-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 15 Sep 2020 17:35:27 +0000 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3020.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3020.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 08FHZRxs023808; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 17:35:27 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 33h885hpru-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 15 Sep 2020 17:35:27 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0015.oracle.com (abhmp0015.oracle.com [141.146.116.21]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 08FHZNjC000753; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 17:35:23 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.5044.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9745 signatures=668679 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlxscore=0 spamscore=0 adultscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 malwarescore=0 bulkscore=0 mlxlogscore=892 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2006250000 definitions=main-2009150141 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9745 signatures=668679 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 bulkscore=0 mlxlogscore=924 adultscore=0 malwarescore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 phishscore=0 spamscore=0 priorityscore=1501 suspectscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2006250000 definitions=main-2009150140 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=141.146.126.78; envelope-from=drew.adams@oracle.com; helo=aserp2120.oracle.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/15 13:34:41 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -73 X-Spam_score: -7.4 X-Spam_bar: ------- X-Spam_report: (-7.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-2.999, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255775 Archived-At: > > > A tour is different from a button to get a set of features. > > > > Did you have a look at the proposal? You yourself agreed they are not the same thing: > I do not think this is better than the guided > tour / interactive guide proposal Your point in saying that was presumably not to claim that they are the same but that one is better than the other. My point was that they have different purposes, with some overlap. They are not the same thing.