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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:289095 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------r6KcJm5I4YzQW8oRXODIYA0V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 03.05.2022 07:59, Uwe Brauer wrote: > > Hi > > I am forced to use gmail at my university (the features google offer are > a bit different to the personal accounts) > and also for some private stuff. > > There was a discussion in 2022 about the following issue, but then > google dropped this subject because of Covid, however now it seems to > back: > > Now google keeps sending me message that from 30th of May 3rd party > packages cannot connect anymore to imap+smtp via the traditional way. > > It is my understanding that it might be possible make emacs (gnus) work > with gmail under those circumstances, that is using oauth2. > > Has anybody got that to work? > > If so, can he/she share its setting? > > Thanks > > Uwe Brauer > > My understanding may not be perfect, but having considered a similar conundrum for a work-integration, I landed on the conclusion that SMTP and IMAP should keep working as long as you use app-passwords for logging in to your account. If so, that should probably be adequate for Emacs too. Or is my understanding of this situation incorrect? -- Vennlig hilsen *Jostein Kjønigsen* jostein@kjonigsen.net 🍵 jostein@gmail.com https://jostein.kjønigsen.no --------------r6KcJm5I4YzQW8oRXODIYA0V Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 03.05.2022 07:59, Uwe Brauer wrote:

Hi

I am forced to use gmail at my university (the features google offer are
a bit different to the personal accounts)
and also for some private stuff.

There was a discussion in 2022 about the following issue, but then
google dropped this subject because of Covid, however now it seems to
back:

Now google keeps sending me message that from 30th of May 3rd party
packages cannot connect anymore to imap+smtp via the traditional way.

It is my understanding that it might be possible make emacs (gnus) work
with gmail under those circumstances, that is using oauth2.

Has anybody got that to work?

If so, can he/she share its setting?

Thanks

Uwe Brauer

My understanding may not be perfect, but having considered a similar conundrum for a work-integration, I landed on the conclusion that SMTP and IMAP should keep working as long as you use app-passwords for logging in to your account. If so, that should probably be adequate for Emacs too.

Or is my understanding of this situation incorrect?

--
Vennlig hilsen
Jostein Kjønigsen

jostein@kjonigsen.net 🍵 jostein@gmail.com
https://jostein.kjønigsen.no
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