From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: how to turn off automatic curly-quoting? Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 08:48:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <<36f6e67e-45d9-4eca-8302-ad9a06d138f1@default>> <<83fv41v6fh.fsf@gnu.org>> <<5681a732-5741-4f56-b3d7-cb1edb739d32@default>> <<55BEA291.70402@cs.ucla.edu>> <<83a8u8v1zk.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1438616944 24819 80.91.229.3 (3 Aug 2015 15:49:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 15:49:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 03 17:48:54 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZMHys-0007zx-Rq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:48:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59625 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZMHys-0004TJ-9L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 11:48:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52415) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZMHyp-0004Su-9L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 11:48:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZMHyo-0002Uq-GZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 11:48:47 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:27244) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZMHyj-0002U0-I8; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 11:48:41 -0400 Original-Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t73FmdYY005298 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 3 Aug 2015 15:48:39 GMT Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t73FmdYF021972 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 3 Aug 2015 15:48:39 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0013.oracle.com (abhmp0013.oracle.com [141.146.116.19]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t73Fmcfs016877; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 15:48:38 GMT In-Reply-To: <<83a8u8v1zk.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:188350 Archived-At: > > > Also, why is the name about "translation"? Shouldn't > > > this option just be about what style is used for quoting > > > Emacs terms? > > > > That point has also been made. I changed the name to 'text-quoting-sty= le' > > in the attached patch. Although it's just a name, it does have uses > > outside help buffers so at least the 'help' part of the name was mislea= ding. > > Other Emacs packages (e.g., coreutils) use "quoting-style" but that's t= oo > > generic for Emacs which has other interpretation of the word "quoting". >=20 > How about 'symbol-quoting-style'? Isn't that more accurate than > 'text-quoting-style'? Definitely. But this "quoting" is used not only for symbols but also for Lisp (and other language?) sexps generally. It is also used for key sequences. And I've seen other uses too - cross-refs, file names, or URLs, perhaps? `sexp-quoting-style' is better than `symbol-quoting-style' is (much!) better than `text-quoting-style', which is quite misleading. What about just `quoting-style'? But again, this is not at all about ordinary text quoting (which is why we should not be using ordinary curly quotes for this at all).