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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:288895 Archived-At: --9d9dc044da254066ac0b81b0c6197b0e Content-Type: text/plain As Manuel mentioned - this broke CIDER (a package that I maintain), and I'm pretty sure it will break other packages as well. I find it weird to be doing breaking changes to such old functions instead of introducing newer functions to serve in their place. It'd be easy for me to update CIDER to work with the old and the new version, but anyone running an older CIDER on a newer Emacs will be affected by this. My suggestion would be to revert this until a less problematic solution is agreed upon. On Tue, Apr 26, 2022, at 1:38 PM, Po Lu wrote: > Manuel Uberti writes: > > > It sure breaks CIDER, for instance: > > https://github.com/clojure-emacs/cider/issues/3183 > > It also breaks something on my system, but I can't find what. > > --9d9dc044da254066ac0b81b0c6197b0e Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As Manuel menti= oned - this broke CIDER (a package that I maintain), and I'm pretty sure= it will break other packages as well. I find it weird to be doing break= ing changes to
such old functions instead of introducing n= ewer functions to serve in their place. It'd be easy for me to update CI= DER to work with the old and the new version, but anyone running an olde= r CIDER on a newer Emacs will be affected by this.

My suggestion would be to revert this until a less problematic = solution is agreed upon.

On Tue, Apr 26, 2= 022, at 1:38 PM, Po Lu wrote:
Manuel Uberti <manuel.uberti@inventati.org> writes:
> It sure breaks CIDER, for instance:

It also breaks something on my system, but I can't find what.



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