From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "David House" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: display.texi: (,) isn't documented. Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 16:42:47 +0100 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1181230981 5983 80.91.229.12 (7 Jun 2007 15:43:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 15:43:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 07 17:43:00 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HwK8V-0007Aa-Fd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:42:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HwK8V-00082Q-1x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:42:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HwK8S-0007y9-1b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:42:52 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HwK8P-0007tM-Vf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:42:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HwK8P-0007ss-P5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:42:49 -0400 Original-Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.229]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HwK8P-00051c-Au for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:42:49 -0400 Original-Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so456112wri for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 08:42:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=R3yTkKmOuGXVo5ddWPBboJB/4cX0UFZAhBKD3CN1c+/b9M7no6K9vzfXWsRrpJ9cBLoKISfQx6DuioTCDmVEBWyNWHqjx4kAiRTb+ftmcf/jQRd/Hv4k1CSyI7A0B4DfN7Qyhc9wxSAdx392RMc4bFsb+IUQl++vVLQrxEhcIkU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=XxU+jz/4zChDU6YarzTCy4vJBfaR2fap1XTfL8aNsbaeRdUYx5TVZ5aSDoLrr0NKMIJtjXW5EZ7U/wp2+l/u2KBRRm9jfSscqo6K667gPQaD+XKm16JQxcsoJ676P5ajIukN1QPiltVKjR9wv/D3GPmIhCtZhlfxSnrQOYMcJK4= Original-Received: by 10.143.1.2 with SMTP id d2mr95780wfi.1181230967454; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 08:42:47 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.142.104.20 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jun 2007 08:42:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:72418 Archived-At: On 07/06/07, Drew Adams wrote: > The main point is that either order would be clear (i.e. would not "be > confusing"), because of the explicit dimension indicators `x' and `y'. The > same is not true of the other suggestions (except for `C' and `L'). Disagreed - I'd probably just glance at the first number and expect it to be a column number. Additionally, the numbers in 184x25y aren't as visually distinct as in (184,25) or 184L 25C (although the latter is still confusing as the L and C tend to visually merge into the numerals). > What's the connection with compiler error messages? This is interactive > feedback about cursor position in a buffer. In compiler output, you are > primarily (as in first) interested in the line number. That's not the case > here - you might be interested in either or both. Yes, it would be > "abnormal" for compiler messages to list the column number first. I don't > see why that's pertinent here. They still have in common that they display a line number and a column number. There aren't many other places where this happens, so compiler messages are pretty much the standard, I guess. -- -David House, dmhouse@gmail.com