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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250227 Archived-At: On 14/05/20 12:25, Nicola Manca wrote: > Hallo, > > First time I write here, so let me start saying thank you for the great > job your doing with Emacs! > > Trying to evolve into an emacs-centered lifestyle, I found out > newsticker-tree to read RSS feed. I found it pretty comfortable, > in particularly if you are used to liferea or akregator. > > However there are some usability improvements that would make it almost > an out-of-the-box replacement of these graphical softwares. I was not > sure if this is the right place where to discuss this or if I should > send a 'feature request' bug report. However, since there are a lot of > discussions about making life for new users easier, these are > suggestions that may be valuable. > > I'm sorry for the ordering, I just wrote them down what as they came up > in my mind. > > - Import opml does not preserve the tree structure, new groups have to > be created and populated. > > - Feeds arrangement needs to be save continuously by pressing 's', this > is total counter-intuitive and, even if I was aware of it, many times I > did save and found out my feeds spread around, again. > > - I cannot sort groups as I do with feeds (M-) > > - There is no easy way to remove feeds as to insert them, that's totally > absurd from my point of view. > > - Focus does not follow the cursor, this is quite uncomfortable when you > want to operate on a feed you have the cursor on, but the highlighted > one is another. > > - Some operations are incredibly slow, marking 'old' a feed with ~100 > items takes several seconds. > > - It would be quite handy if the feed's displayed name would correspond > to the label assigned, some feeds have an incredibly long name that > doesn't fit the right window (if you keep it at a reasonably width). > > - Even if i disabled the visualization of icons next to a feed name, > those who were already downloaded remained there. > > These are the small usability issues I found so far. They may seems > minor but in my experience are those small stuff may be quite relevant > for new users. > > cheers, > Nicola Manca Forgot to mention, I'm using GNU Emacs 28.0.50, built with: --with-nativecomp --with-imagemagick --with-xwidgets --with-x cheers, Nicola