From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ralf Angeli Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs geometry Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 08:20:42 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1153808493 9877 80.91.229.2 (25 Jul 2006 06:21:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 06:21:33 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 25 08:21:31 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G5GIJ-0000In-I2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 08:21:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G5GII-0004yK-OB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 02:21:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G5GI6-0004yF-C0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 02:21:14 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G5GI3-0004xY-2b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 02:21:13 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G5GI2-0004xS-S6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 02:21:10 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1G5GJI-00026B-IM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 02:22:28 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1G5GHm-0000E1-2E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 08:20:54 +0200 Original-Received: from p54a50e45.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.165.14.69]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 08:20:54 +0200 Original-Received: from angeli by p54a50e45.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 08:20:54 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 34 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54a50e45.dip0.t-ipconnect.de Cancel-Lock: sha1:WfMJ/SHh4m4ZXQVaMQzaMB7Bg3g= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:57596 Archived-At: * Drew Adams (2006-07-25) writes: > I understand the motivation, but I, for one, don't like this improvement one > bit. I don't remember seeing this design change discussed, BTW. Look in emacs-pretest-bug. The thread is called "startup frame position". > First, `default-frame-alist' should be rigorously respected - it seems to be > ignored wrt position now. Have you checked with the current source? > There should be a default value for top, left = 0,0, as before. Anything > else seems weird and unnatural. Not one of the applications on Windows I know opens at (0,0). They either let the window manager do the placement or open with the geometry they had in their last session. That means opening at (0,0) is rather weird an unnatural. The cascading behavior there is now might need some love because Emacs ends up for too often at the bottom of the screen. But this looks like a bug in the window manager. > Here is the version I was testing: > > In GNU Emacs 22.0.50.1 (i386-msvc-nt5.1.2600) > of 2006-07-19 on BOS-CTHEWLAP2 Could you try with a more recent version? -- Ralf