From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Please explain the FSF copyright assignment thing Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 12:12:06 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87shi08bx5.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87shi0xjzf.fsf@kwork> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1499973150 7138 195.159.176.226 (13 Jul 2017 19:12:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 19:12:30 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?=c3=93scar_Fuentes?= , Emacs developers , John Yates To: Filipe Silva , Karl Fogel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 13 21:12:25 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dVjXE-0001Pb-Lh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 21:12:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33625 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dVjXI-0000Xk-Ip for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 15:12:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34450) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dVjX7-0000UJ-Qx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 15:12:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dVjWz-0008AM-BZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 15:12:13 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:41102) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dVjWz-00089h-5s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 15:12:09 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E997A16019D; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 12:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id R3oYJpireGo8; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 12:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0E4160191; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 12:12:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id PYM3Ys8d7INP; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 12:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [172.30.71.135] (wifi-natpool-131-179-61-183.host.ucla.edu [131.179.61.183]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1F41D160187; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 12:12:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:216603 Archived-At: On 07/13/2017 11:48 AM, Filipe Silva wrote: > What harm will descent upon us all if an official component of emacs > is distributed which hasn't had it's copyright assigned to FSF? I can easily imagine scenarios where an uncooperative or unresponsive contributor would make GPL enforcement significantly more difficult for the FSF. These enforcement actions (which mostly are unpublicized) have nonzero legal cost, and increasing their cost would not be a good thing. Projects that don't care about enforcement, or care about it less, don't need to worry about this sort of thing. The GNU Project cares about enforcement. I should mention that I'm not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.