From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs-losedows-builder Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 02:17:13 +0300 Message-ID: References: <1137fded-fc14-2445-bc6b-e8f2aceed56c@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1472771885 13561 195.159.176.226 (1 Sep 2016 23:18:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 23:18:05 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 Cc: nikolay.kudryavtsev@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org, Simon Friis Vindum Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 02 01:18:00 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bfbF9-0002tV-PW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2016 01:17:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39280 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bfbF7-0004YH-3k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Sep 2016 19:17:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35118) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bfbEX-0004YA-WB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Sep 2016 19:17:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bfbET-0005UV-RI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Sep 2016 19:17:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wm0-x22d.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::22d]:38180) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bfbET-0005U1-KO; Thu, 01 Sep 2016 19:17:17 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wm0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id 1so5725113wmz.1; Thu, 01 Sep 2016 16:17:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=A9FuMFA91WOipIXfv1N5BAzx4kNYfJ4OjoceDS0QS+M=; b=zrclvN4DEpxnE3GY3OkCyrBVrsOmDiSGjon1Xr4xmZ/q/kFBiZHY7B4shAUkQa1Ame kBeXp3REnVZWgVx4j3cYyRjd+xUTlRpQGT9MB0Zyce3iSPQEDjhCevWasTs/ZcKEArpd XsAMR0rYan1B6+x7WfdSEy2L0uqes6kHCERBuBN2XU/2a/oRgH4vzjhxpu5m/rmuFpDX g/8kkiH0CB4qBmb+B47xt5TYNC41VdVsp/jxYKC6Thlu2QlNSiK0snybKwZD6tFPNstt 3qjvHzd52vvpZiEBTUD3wgSgMc85f2/GXL0RNvuLK6hY9LD51FAe0URCAkMe8N+wxBuT SWww== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=A9FuMFA91WOipIXfv1N5BAzx4kNYfJ4OjoceDS0QS+M=; b=ZbxV7Lpk0apWTG8H/7zHhjAqxIHj14gUXru3eXpNSU+DAJkluhJ270nCVH3Hu8IgcA mMd2s4Be+wkgCVIHzSgl4YvxEQeQPWgkHFHWAjftHozm53Y8GPaROTCsKIK6DiS8JBjL xbVdhGvf5+yoVEVfod2KMYeeWbHElw3rx1Ksg7xUWx5V+5RWO+ic4jpa6jEgzxZ2D2Qa Xc595NZJmeCSjsDG/MZ87Q6hRKvwyuxj72C0wNyJ8jR/13bXViSiUFuOzfCnEFXfTeJN QqZMg3nVjr0QC/AStfYLkGjybznkEtjTbU5Guc1CqmEYbj/byOpKpSKJebyfNDUNngYa 4Z+w== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwNNhcmiDpikdiBsuewh8puqifkdkIM6SDzB+1YftAU7WO9bVrhTYwNHUWJM11a7iw== X-Received: by 10.28.93.20 with SMTP id r20mr144234wmb.89.1472771836263; Thu, 01 Sep 2016 16:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([185.105.173.135]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id h7sm7541203wjd.17.2016.09.01.16.17.14 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 01 Sep 2016 16:17:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c09::22d X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:207105 Archived-At: Hello Richard, On 01.09.2016 21:54, Richard Stallman wrote: > Name-calling is a very effective method for spreading the idea that > something is evil -- in this case Windows. Not when doing so makes us appear childish. People are less inclined to heed warnings from those who they do not take seriously. And in this case, there's no "meat" to the message. Just name-calling. > Contrariwise, pleasant nicknames such as "win" tend to act as support. > That's why we don't refer to Windows as "win". Let's call it "windows", then. Though I cannot think of a time when I've read e.g. "win32" and made an association with "win" as in "victory". Or if I did, it didn't make me think about Windows better anyway (and I've used it for years). Best regards, Dmitry.