From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Why change the advertised bindings of Isearch commands? Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 17:01:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: References: > <83k2p3sq71.fsf@gnu.org>> <6191c91b-e09a-4cf2-859d-7370e1300924@default> <87k2p3ghuv.fsf@mail.linkov.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1448672531 16018 80.91.229.3 (28 Nov 2015 01:02:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 01:02:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 28 02:01:57 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a2Ttk-0006xa-Ga for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2015 02:01:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59091 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a2Ttn-0006Ef-DA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 20:01:59 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56667) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a2Ttb-0006ER-M2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 20:01:48 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a2Tta-0003O9-Jx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 20:01:47 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:36058) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a2TtW-0003Lu-L3; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 20:01:42 -0500 Original-Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id tAS11e4k013000 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 28 Nov 2015 01:01:40 GMT Original-Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id tAS11ebK028326 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 28 Nov 2015 01:01:40 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0016.oracle.com (abhmp0016.oracle.com [141.146.116.22]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id tAS11dT6025897; Sat, 28 Nov 2015 01:01:39 GMT In-Reply-To: <87k2p3ghuv.fsf@mail.linkov.net> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.81 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:195425 Archived-At: > >> And evidently, the desire to remove it means we think its > >> binding outside Isearch is more useful. > > > > We do? How and when did we decide that? > > > > What were the arguments pro and con - where can I find the > > discussion? Did we poll the users, to get their take on this? >=20 > You can find the discussion that you missed in the mail archive. Could you possibly please point to it? Subject? month? year? keywords? I searched quickly (and unsuccessfully) fo= r "capitalize" over the last 8 years, but a pointer would help. > > And that I disagree with. But if it _has_ been discussed and > > decided then I have no problem supporting the decision, even > > if I disagree with it. >=20 > I remember that the consensus was to reduce the number of > Isearch keys that override their global bindings. A consensus, huh? And these particular keys were discussed, and decided on? I'd like to see that discussion.