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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:267798 Archived-At: On 10.04.2021 10:20, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Stefan Monnier >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , philipk@posteo.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2021 19:48:25 -0400 >> >> I think it would be desirable to change the default UI just enough so >> that a code like Xref can make `completing-read` display the >> completions eagerly. > > Right away, i.e. even without the user typing anything? that'd produce > a huge list of candidates, which would be impractical to display. I guess it depends on the usage/language/project, whether the list is "huge" often enough, or not. But *Completions* can display large lists, it will just get cut off.