From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Compilation warnings in mouse.el Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 07:08:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <87bn21nayo.fsf@fastmail.fm> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1468419272 32759 80.91.229.3 (13 Jul 2016 14:14:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:14:32 +0000 (UTC) To: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 13 16:14:20 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bNKvX-0008NC-Cl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 16:14:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47869 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bNKvW-0008Hx-IK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 10:14:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37770) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bNKpf-0001oN-8o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 10:08:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bNKpZ-00058f-4T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 10:08:10 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:38545) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bNKpY-00058I-SM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 10:08:05 -0400 Original-Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u6DE82r2020570 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:08:02 GMT Original-Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u6DE81c1024343 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:08:02 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0010.oracle.com (abhmp0010.oracle.com [141.146.116.16]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id u6DE80sj029868; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:08:01 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205624 Archived-At: What is the problem that _not_ requiring or warning about a missing :group tries to solve? Stefan: Are you encouraging this only in order to allow laziness and slightly less verbose code, or is there an actual problem that occurs if people consistently provide :group with defcustoms? "Defcustoms should pretty much never have :group" is pretty strong ("_should_"), even if you do qualify it with "pretty much". Why _should_ they? Is it just to be less rigid, or is there really a _problem_ that this solves? It's pretty strong when someone as knowledgeable and authoritative in Emacs as yourself says that something _should_ be some way. It helps if you say why.