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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: cpitclaudel@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, joaotavora@gmail.com,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: Re: Add a separate mode for .dir-locals.el
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 15:26:28 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e550656a-6d52-91ee-9ba3-ba3972ece65d@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83eez64nw3.fsf@gnu.org>

On 21.10.2019 9:24, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

>> So we have several features that, somewhere in the implementation, will
>> need to make that check and act differently because of that. A new major
>> mode will do that nicely.
> 
> And the current major mode mostly does TRT already, as you yourself
> point out.

There's no *and* here. I'm talking about how the current major mode will 
have to function.

It does TRT only for Xref, but not for completion-at-point-functions, or 
Flymake/Flycheck. As I have pointed out in some detail.

>> Speaking of no-brainers, I don't see why you're fighting this one.
> 
> I don't like the idea, given the motivation.  Am I allowed to have gut
> feelings?

I suppose. Though, when asked, in similar situations I try to describe 
my "gut feeling" in logical terms, in terms of user experience, etc. 
Similarly to what I have done in this discussion.

When one side wields explanations and another is based on gut feeling, 
is often when we have long, pointless discussions like this one.

> Is the question "why you're fighting this one" only
> applicable to me?

I don't think so. In general, we should use it more often.

For instance, in the very discussion where I got the "no-brainer" quote 
from, I conceded the essence of the change and now only focus on the 
details of the implementation.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-10-21 12:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-17  2:07 Add a separate mode for .dir-locals.el Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-10-17  2:20 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-10-17  7:53   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 11:51     ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-10-17 12:21       ` João Távora
2019-10-17 13:16         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 13:51           ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-10-17 15:45             ` Yuri Khan
2019-10-17 15:47               ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-10-17 16:55                 ` Amin Bandali
2019-10-17 14:00           ` João Távora
2019-10-17 15:12             ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-17 15:32             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-17 15:41               ` João Távora
2019-10-17 15:47                 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-10-17 16:37                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-17 17:04                   ` João Távora
2019-10-17 17:35                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 17:42                       ` João Távora
2019-10-17 17:52                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 18:09                           ` João Távora
2019-10-17 18:28                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 19:00                               ` João Távora
2019-10-17 19:21                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 19:53                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-18  7:39                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-18 12:56                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-17 21:35                                   ` João Távora
2019-10-18  8:00                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-18  8:38                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-18 13:14                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-18 10:25                                       ` João Távora
2019-10-18 12:33                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-18 13:43                                           ` João Távora
2019-10-18 14:07                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-19  9:52                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-19 11:00                                               ` João Távora
2019-10-19 11:08                                                 ` João Távora
2019-10-19 11:56                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-19 12:55                                                   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-10-19 13:36                                                   ` João Távora
2019-10-19 14:03                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-19 16:13                                                       ` João Távora
2019-10-19 12:53                                               ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-10-19 14:14                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-19 16:51                                                   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-10-19 20:41                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-19 21:35                                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-10-19 22:01                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-20  5:45                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-20  8:17                                                       ` João Távora
2019-10-20 15:40                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-20 19:29                                                           ` João Távora
2019-10-21 12:43                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-21 13:15                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-21 13:34                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-21 13:41                                                             ` João Távora
2019-10-21 13:48                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-19 20:38                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-20  5:38                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-20 20:21                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-21  6:24                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-21  7:05                                                         ` João Távora
2019-10-21  7:15                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-21  8:25                                                             ` João Távora
2019-10-21 10:09                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-21 10:28                                                                 ` João Távora
2019-10-21 10:59                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-21 11:22                                                                     ` João Távora
2019-10-21 11:32                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-21 11:39                                                                         ` João Távora
2019-10-21 12:26                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2019-10-17 19:50                               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-17 19:59                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 20:32                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-18  7:34                                     ` Michael Albinus
2019-10-18  7:52                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-18 13:11                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-19 10:00                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-19 14:05                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-17 16:36               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 17:47                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-10-17 18:08                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-17 19:46                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-10-17 20:19                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-17 18:19                   ` João Távora
2019-10-17 19:38                     ` Alan Mackenzie
     [not found]           ` <CALDnm50Q+QuhYRqZxV4-YzAAqhmU05+nOS3Oh1wvcJsYEX+sbg@mail.gmail.com>
2019-10-17 14:12             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 15:31               ` João Távora
2019-10-17  8:55 ` Andreas Schwab
2019-10-17 11:48   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-10-17 12:03     ` Andreas Schwab
2019-10-17 12:10       ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-10-18  3:14       ` Richard Stallman
2019-10-17 13:40   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-19 12:28     ` Why we SHOULDN'T add " Alan Mackenzie
2019-10-19 12:59       ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-10-19 22:04       ` Dmitry Gutov

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