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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: John Yates <john@yates-sheets.org>,
	Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: First draft of the Emacs website
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 14:57:57 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e48b7ebb-5370-4f31-857f-5954b0feeed2@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJnXXogPKXa-ORGmvBccOqNsu7-ZCTymDyLnZFD4znyhBAfyDA@mail.gmail.com>

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FWIW -

 

(My assumption is that anyone who does not already have some exposure to the command-line is a lost cause, but I would be happy to be corrected.)

 

I disagree. You do not need to be familiar with using a CLI to use Emacs. (I use M-x grep, and that's about it, these days.)

 

* Hence any mention of Lisp seems inappropriate.  We had better hope that Emacs' Out-Of-Box impression is good enough to motivate - in time - an interest in Lisp, rather than presume it.  Even more off-putting are the fine points of various Lisp dialects and Lisp extensions.

 

Not presuming "an interest in Lisp" is not the same as forbidding "any mention of Lisp". And I disagree that any mention of Lisp is inappropriate. 

 

I agree that no mention need be made of different Lisps or dive into specific aspects of Lisp. 

 

But it can be mentioned that you have available a powerful, easy-to-use (yes), very high-level programming language to extend and interact with Emacs. And yes, this is end-user stuff. (IMHO)

 

* Displaying Lisp code is probably not a great "come-on".

 

Simple Lisp code need not be a giant turn-off either, and need not be verboten in this context.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-12-03 22:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-28 23:29 First draft of the Emacs website Nicolas Petton
2015-11-28 23:51 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2015-11-29  0:03 ` Daniel Pimentel
2015-11-29  1:02 ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-11-29  1:26   ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-29  2:19     ` Alex Dunn
2015-11-29  3:31       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2015-11-29  5:42         ` Random832
2015-11-29  8:15           ` David Caldwell
2015-11-29 14:25             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-30 17:49             ` Emacs for Mac OS X bundle (was: First draft of the Emacs website) John Wiegley
2015-11-30 20:02               ` Emacs for Mac OS X bundle David Caldwell
2015-12-01  0:15                 ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-12-01  1:40                   ` David Caldwell
2015-11-30  0:02     ` First draft of the Emacs website Xue Fuqiao
2015-11-29  8:06 ` Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-11-29 10:27   ` Zack Piper
2015-11-29 12:36     ` Rasmus
2015-11-29 12:58       ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-29 14:00       ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-11-29 10:15 ` David Engster
2015-11-29 12:56   ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-29 15:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-29 19:38   ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-29 22:01     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-29 22:11       ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-29 16:21 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2015-11-29 19:39   ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-29 21:45 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-29 22:11   ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-30  0:04     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-30  1:29       ` Alex Dunn
2015-11-30  9:43         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-30 10:33           ` Dani Moncayo
2015-11-30 15:22             ` Drew Adams
2015-11-30 16:06   ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-30 16:16     ` Yuri Khan
2015-11-30 16:23       ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-01 14:37     ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-01 14:56       ` Nicolas Petton
2015-11-30 19:48 ` Milan Zamazal
2015-12-02 16:45   ` Drew Adams
2015-12-02 17:22     ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-02 16:36 ` Random832
2015-12-02 17:12   ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-02 18:07     ` Yuri Khan
2015-12-02 18:26       ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-02 18:29       ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-02 18:30         ` Yuri Khan
2015-12-02 23:47   ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-12-04  3:57     ` Random832
2015-12-04  5:17       ` License of the Emacs website (was: Re: First draft of the Emacs website) Chad Brown
2015-12-05  0:19       ` First draft of the Emacs website Richard Stallman
2015-12-03 13:58 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2015-12-03 22:17   ` John Yates
2015-12-03 22:30     ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-03 22:57     ` Drew Adams [this message]
2015-12-03 23:26       ` John Yates
2015-12-04  0:58         ` Drew Adams
2015-12-08 13:05           ` Valentijn
2015-12-08 15:09             ` Drew Adams
2015-12-08 15:21               ` Spencer Boucher
2015-12-08 16:08                 ` David Kastrup
2015-12-08 20:52                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-12-08 21:51                   ` Drew Adams
2015-12-08 21:58                     ` Drew Adams
2015-12-09 21:00                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-12-10  5:28                     ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-10  9:10                       ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10  5:27                   ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-10 16:13                     ` Python vs Lisp (followups to -tangents) Random832
2015-12-10 18:40                       ` Sam Steingold
2015-12-10 22:31                         ` Random832
2015-12-16 15:57                           ` Sam Steingold
2015-12-16 17:56                           ` Christopher Allan Webber
2015-12-09  6:06                 ` First draft of the Emacs website Richard Stallman
2015-12-04  6:06         ` David Kastrup
2015-12-04  9:37           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-04  9:42             ` David Kastrup
2015-12-04 10:11               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-04 10:42                 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-04 10:44                 ` David Kastrup
2015-12-04 11:03                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-04 22:26                   ` Paul Eggert
2015-12-04 22:30                     ` David Kastrup
2015-12-04  8:42         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-03 23:59     ` Clément Pit--Claudel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-12-02 12:47 H.Tsurumoto
2015-12-02 13:07 ` David Kastrup
2015-12-02 14:55   ` Random832
2015-12-02 15:16     ` David Kastrup
2015-12-02 15:39       ` Drew Adams
2015-12-02 15:42       ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-02 15:53         ` David Kastrup
2015-12-02 16:07           ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-02 15:55         ` Yuri Khan
2015-12-02 15:57           ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-02 16:05             ` David Kastrup
2015-12-02 16:07             ` Yuri Khan
2015-12-02 16:08           ` Random832
2015-12-03  6:22         ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-03  9:29           ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-03  9:59             ` Alexis
2015-12-03 10:51               ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-04  5:22                 ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-04  9:07                   ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-04  5:22             ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-04  9:36               ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-03  6:21   ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-02 14:14 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-12-02 16:39   ` David Engster

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