From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: C-x & (was: Introducing thread-safe Tramp) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 10:59:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1533578519 20269 195.159.176.226 (6 Aug 2018 18:01:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 18:01:59 +0000 (UTC) To: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 06 20:01:55 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fmjpG-00056h-KY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2018 20:01:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35519 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fmjrM-0000VV-PU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2018 14:04:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40004) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fmjnb-0005ly-Mr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2018 14:00:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fmjnV-0006W3-Sg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2018 14:00:07 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp2130.oracle.com ([141.146.126.79]:37870) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fmjnV-0006TZ-Fo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2018 14:00:01 -0400 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (aserp2130.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp2130.oracle.com (8.16.0.22/8.16.0.22) with SMTP id w76HxYR6024885; Mon, 6 Aug 2018 17:59:57 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : subject : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2018-07-02; bh=j5g4BLlbOaBbTegjKtWEjuL3uDjy+dwm+Wgk/yrVmQQ=; b=i09cx2hp3vp8usnDRXd9UGsxACTf1ZeL/SRoyTqnIGFB+SYAvvfirbkvNYhUvqfedtm/ ooVoKIiMGDhK/kAeMLL2S2whdoDSsMcA2xvecUzdx88RZO20kTktQr0N+tgPqwpBOzwe 4O+dimUMzvgj/qXzXxgVm7P8zt3jB62WOH+oLieVg5RKRIVZiAE8NOAe6Z7hxMVmcLWQ OPd8naI1BTRLYasw5fwpnh81UxkIfYYjK5JxmI5bF6BNDHdOFY0kwqF69VX3aHoaKw4X gaOaL8XNaPx5CiO5PdL26SuYKDuZlanM9dyuxHmv+uIPpj7AWnpk2rYozCEmrvdNaxcl ow== Original-Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by aserp2130.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2kn1ncx5wy-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 06 Aug 2018 17:59:57 +0000 Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w76HxuQs016482 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 6 Aug 2018 17:59:56 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w76HxtIN020730; Mon, 6 Aug 2018 17:59:56 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4717.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5900 definitions=8977 signatures=668707 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=582 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1807170000 definitions=main-1808060187 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.79 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:228235 Archived-At: > > As Richard suggested, don't call it anything. At least do not call it a= ny of > > those things (it's not a command or a prefix key (sequence)). >=20 > It's definitely a command and it is used before another, so "prefix > command" sounds about right. `C-x &' is definitely _not_ a command. If you want to call the command it's bound to (by default) a "prefix comman= d", that's a different story. But a key sequence is not a command. It might= be bound to a command, but it's not a command. And if a user replaces that key binding by a different one then the command= continues to have the same behavior ("prefix command" behavior, if you lik= e), but the key sequence no longer has that behavior.