From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=c3=a9ment_Pit-Claudel?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Summary and next steps for (package-initialize) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2017 10:15:06 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1503216954 26737 195.159.176.226 (20 Aug 2017 08:15:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2017 08:15:54 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 20 10:15:51 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1djLOe-0006Vv-Bl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2017 10:15:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59678 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1djLOj-0006Ha-68 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2017 04:15:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36775) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1djLO5-0006Gy-A4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2017 04:15:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1djLO2-0003eU-6D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2017 04:15:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::231]:35868) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1djLO2-0003dL-0I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2017 04:15:10 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wm0-x231.google.com with SMTP id t201so27494557wmt.1 for ; Sun, 20 Aug 2017 01:15:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GAcUR7ms2BGFHUr4++/fkmBacsMcGMqr55ge4ZKH/i8=; b=TTrv6ELs0eXmm3kIo8jPWUSJrJkwr/XynFcoMiVrjj7pxofsp/vrXJ2M2q40mw3gTf pGUc1p5zqm8FzH8Q2ZqAKOh215/XrDVvzpjk/bSf2wDXK8H205aCIE55DmRQxFZQa3yY Ai+7LYmM6IPuTS4rQ+MKnAi5VVZZoA2WDFDzy072rhJ3mFsKJhqlw8YJty08DYg86NK9 w26kJRmUUwLxPuFZN8UEgoILlJL5xqcDX6NQEKZgXx2xLReZAfDCnFe58Mtb1QgoNdI1 eeMloryAzQXDr+Sb0wdaEt05BYqZSQe+eiNSEeEekEF2c3hvf1jasg5CnklA6ifvKlrY nndg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GAcUR7ms2BGFHUr4++/fkmBacsMcGMqr55ge4ZKH/i8=; b=hKoR3XUYt1W1WBabn8kpyUKJZLba4UF/Kf9mtSeosXPd9m4FhEbmePkFJblSKzQA0f 1ZhhleAMrno57fASmk6890ey2MG2GPSYk08dtwJHTA3xBepzXeM0wyAUnByeW7IuP0rH fdTFpfPHG9SUS2sXLz3R0J2m5bIPNMxDZwceRzrkvG8uIHPklIEVWIwnQD4XuZHSwRRQ 77/trEX57UE6UuuLGJhcBvTbETRgj+u3XIoDOGcgF0ZQt/mybogOi7dnFl0iauBJZlRp RecmKj9pYvD4FMrWocyI2qY2xP+tchXEukQ9SsUq1jg9Wag7kzsKWzGFI6JtzwNjigNz BAnQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AHYfb5jANCcUAsaLE2dZtHalMNcyGGZkq89RCJpw795PpIBU+D6yhual wxJmZMX7PNdB0gwkGf0= X-Received: by 10.28.105.5 with SMTP id e5mr3995112wmc.42.1503216907508; Sun, 20 Aug 2017 01:15:07 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.82] (43.225.24.109.rev.sfr.net. [109.24.225.43]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l5sm3665613wrg.93.2017.08.20.01.15.06 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 20 Aug 2017 01:15:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-GB X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c09::231 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:217628 Archived-At: On 2017-08-20 04:38, Radon Rosborough wrote: > If you object to this proposal, please tell me what the concrete > disadvantages to it would be, or explain why the advantages I have > listed are not valid. Hi Radon, Thanks for putting this proposal together. Can you explain what advantages it holds over my previous proposal, which didn't require creating an init file if there was none, nor having an explicit package-initialize form?