From: dhruva <dhruvakm@gmail.com>
To: "Stephen Eilert" <spedrosa@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Very interesting analysis of "the state of Emacs"
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:50:12 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e3f230850804292020t7034c887y525d59d5d98e8886@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4817D79F.8040508@gmail.com>
If we are looking at concurrency, there is another paradigm based on
maintaining multiple internal function call stacks which a scheduler
can schedule in some fair fashion. I am talking of stackless Python
implementation. You really do not have multiple threads but get
simulated concurrency through stack switching. For IO intensive usage
using async IO with stackless might make a good candidate.
-dhruva
On 4/30/08, Stephen Eilert <spedrosa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Richard M Stallman wrote:
> > The other hard problem is multi-tasking in the Emacs Lisp engine.
> > RMS once left me with the impression that this was virtually
> > intractable, especially if one wanted to have existing Elisp code base
> > compatibility, a reasonable thing to want.
> >
> > I think "intractable" might be too pessimistic. It is certainly
> > a lot of work, but someone could give it a try.
> >
> >
> >
> Before diving in the merits of whether or not it is possible to add
> multi-tasking to Emacs (by that I assume full-blown threads), what are
> the problems this is trying to solve?
>
> Is it to add background processing (as in, file indexing, background
> compilation, downloads and the like)? If then, a notion of task
> priorities could be discussed. For instance, Eclipse knows that, in
> order to deploy an application, it must be compiled first. It
> understands that those tasks cannot happen in parallel and should be
> queued. On the other hand, you can start downloads (usually, plugins and
> updates for said plugins) right away.
>
> It could be a way to use the increasing amount of available processing
> cores in personal computers. Then again, Emacs doesn't seem like a
> particularly CPU-bound application.
>
> So I am at a loss why this is so important. Could someone clarify?
>
>
> Stephen
>
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-30 3:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-29 3:19 Very interesting analysis of "the state of Emacs" Thomas Lord
2008-04-29 7:26 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2008-04-29 23:17 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-04-30 0:14 ` Thomas Lord
2008-04-30 2:21 ` Stephen Eilert
2008-04-30 3:20 ` dhruva [this message]
2008-04-30 22:00 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-04-30 22:49 ` David Hansen
2008-04-30 23:46 ` Thomas Lord
2008-05-01 7:30 ` tomas
2008-05-01 4:23 ` Jonathan Rockway
2008-05-01 6:31 ` David Hansen
2008-05-01 6:42 ` Miles Bader
2008-05-01 18:59 ` Jonathan Rockway
2008-05-02 15:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-02 16:50 ` CEDET and threads (was Re: Very interesting analysis of "the state of Emacs") Eric M. Ludlam
2008-05-03 8:09 ` Very interesting analysis of "the state of Emacs" Richard M Stallman
2008-05-03 19:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-04 9:37 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-05-04 23:23 ` buffer transactions (was Re: Very interesting analysis of "the state of Emacs") Nic
2008-05-05 15:14 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-04-30 5:12 ` Very interesting analysis of "the state of Emacs" Miles Bader
2008-04-30 14:06 ` David Kastrup
2008-04-30 15:08 ` Tom Tromey
2008-05-15 6:21 ` ERC disconnects when blocked too long (was: Very interesting analysis of "the state of Emacs") Michael Olson
2008-04-30 16:08 ` Very interesting analysis of "the state of Emacs" Thomas Lord
2008-04-30 6:24 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2008-04-30 14:12 ` Mathias Dahl
2008-04-30 22:01 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-04-30 22:56 ` Thomas Lord
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