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From: dhruva <dhruvakm@gmail.com>
To: "Stephen Eilert" <spedrosa@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Very interesting analysis of "the state of Emacs"
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:50:12 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e3f230850804292020t7034c887y525d59d5d98e8886@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4817D79F.8040508@gmail.com>

If we are looking at concurrency, there is another paradigm based on
maintaining multiple internal function call stacks which a scheduler
can schedule in some fair fashion. I am talking of stackless Python
implementation. You really do not have multiple threads but get
simulated concurrency through stack switching. For IO intensive usage
using async IO with stackless might make a good candidate.

-dhruva

On 4/30/08, Stephen Eilert <spedrosa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Richard M Stallman wrote:
> >     The other hard problem is multi-tasking in the Emacs Lisp engine.
> >     RMS once left me with the impression that this was virtually
> >     intractable, especially if one wanted to have existing Elisp code base
> >     compatibility, a reasonable thing to want.
> >
> > I think "intractable" might be too pessimistic.  It is certainly
> > a lot of work, but someone could give it a try.
> >
> >
> >
> Before diving in the merits of whether or not it is possible to add
> multi-tasking to Emacs (by that I assume full-blown threads), what are
> the problems this is trying to solve?
>
> Is it to add background processing (as in, file indexing, background
> compilation, downloads and the like)? If then, a notion of task
> priorities could be discussed. For instance, Eclipse knows that, in
> order to deploy an application, it must be compiled first. It
> understands that those tasks cannot happen in parallel and should be
> queued. On the other hand, you can start downloads (usually, plugins and
> updates for said plugins) right away.
>
> It could be a way to use the increasing amount of available processing
> cores in personal computers. Then again, Emacs doesn't seem like a
> particularly CPU-bound application.
>
> So I am at a loss why this is so important. Could someone clarify?
>
>
> Stephen
>
>
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-30  3:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-29  3:19 Very interesting analysis of "the state of Emacs" Thomas Lord
2008-04-29  7:26 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2008-04-29 23:17   ` Richard M Stallman
2008-04-30  0:14     ` Thomas Lord
2008-04-30  2:21     ` Stephen Eilert
2008-04-30  3:20       ` dhruva [this message]
2008-04-30 22:00         ` Richard M Stallman
2008-04-30 22:49           ` David Hansen
2008-04-30 23:46             ` Thomas Lord
2008-05-01  7:30               ` tomas
2008-05-01  4:23             ` Jonathan Rockway
2008-05-01  6:31               ` David Hansen
2008-05-01  6:42               ` Miles Bader
2008-05-01 18:59                 ` Jonathan Rockway
2008-05-02 15:36                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-02 16:50                   ` CEDET and threads (was Re: Very interesting analysis of "the state of Emacs") Eric M. Ludlam
2008-05-03  8:09                   ` Very interesting analysis of "the state of Emacs" Richard M Stallman
2008-05-03 19:24                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-04  9:37                       ` Richard M Stallman
2008-05-04 23:23                         ` buffer transactions (was Re: Very interesting analysis of "the state of Emacs") Nic
2008-05-05 15:14                           ` Richard M Stallman
2008-04-30  5:12       ` Very interesting analysis of "the state of Emacs" Miles Bader
2008-04-30 14:06         ` David Kastrup
2008-04-30 15:08         ` Tom Tromey
2008-05-15  6:21           ` ERC disconnects when blocked too long (was: Very interesting analysis of "the state of Emacs") Michael Olson
2008-04-30 16:08         ` Very interesting analysis of "the state of Emacs" Thomas Lord
2008-04-30  6:24       ` Paul Michael Reilly
2008-04-30 14:12       ` Mathias Dahl
2008-04-30 22:01       ` Richard M Stallman
2008-04-30 22:56         ` Thomas Lord

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