From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Loading a package applies automatically to future sessions? Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2018 14:28:08 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1517610426 15080 195.159.176.226 (2 Feb 2018 22:27:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2018 22:27:06 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.2 Cc: monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: George Plymale II , rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 02 23:27:01 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ehjnE-0002qS-G7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Feb 2018 23:26:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37559 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ehjpF-00057A-Oq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Feb 2018 17:28:53 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47059) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ehjoc-00056W-KY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Feb 2018 17:28:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ehjoZ-0005on-HR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Feb 2018 17:28:14 -0500 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:44488) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ehjoZ-0005nJ-9s; Fri, 02 Feb 2018 17:28:11 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAAAB16157F; Fri, 2 Feb 2018 14:28:09 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id AgzGn3uYVp1n; Fri, 2 Feb 2018 14:28:08 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D61B6161588; Fri, 2 Feb 2018 14:28:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id cqBo4HIxQppk; Fri, 2 Feb 2018 14:28:08 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B48C316157F; Fri, 2 Feb 2018 14:28:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:222441 Archived-At: On 02/01/2018 11:24 PM, George Plymale II wrote: > most lawsuits regarding software are > frivolous and ultimately a waste of time for everyone involved Having been the target of a frivolous software lawsuit myself I am sympathetic to this argument. However, such lawsuits don't mean we should give up on the legal system entirely; that would be throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Instead, we should use the legal system as best we can, and work to improve it where it has significant flaws. And this is what the Free Software Foundation is trying to do. > In any case, the copyright issues which I was worried about do not seem > as bad as they did to me initially. Yes, that's often the case. A lot of FUD has been spread about the GPL and the GNU project.