From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "paul r" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: C-z and C-x C-z are bound to suspend-frame Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:43:20 +0100 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206470628 10863 80.91.229.12 (25 Mar 2008 18:43:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:43:48 +0000 (UTC) To: "emacs developers" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 25 19:44:18 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JeE7y-00010r-Vc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:44:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JeE7N-0000RO-N5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:43:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JeE7J-0000Qy-2w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:43:25 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JeE7H-0000Qm-RP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:43:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JeE7H-0000Qj-Oj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:43:23 -0400 Original-Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.128.191]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JeE7H-000217-Cs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:43:23 -0400 Original-Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 26so4081864fkx.10 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:43:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=0BuWimXIyF9EgCdS23jzNnJwS3gSWtnZjuZBQoNxrdo=; b=aHvvDDDdNr3AzzuYCNu0NQ2RghzUlCwQwPtyxSRFmeoPFPAi9AlNcpa+gqcry/XgWuov4EFn77hRnKNAWJdLH1OX8cBUb6B0eGY68dV9XxLP02HbirUlZPFBDfj3MXRsQw+iRvz8FHEILZFZQriyPkrGnQIcmOa2HDpS6sVGzAk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=btcFYxgKthJmjKmUYhKZSSisYzSVSsYv7bdfb1FMfg53+2Y72M29QNOZP8nd9A3clYzfFB67z/X6K85i3st+Jf+jEzwBWIrjyb4FU9+3Icu/HVgrKV0knt7HxjFTcdfodf3+UKKPXZvCRb9QWgk3rEnamr92mmP/IIb2ciV6I7s= Original-Received: by 10.82.177.5 with SMTP id z5mr20006038bue.14.1206470600184; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.82.175.3 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:93431 Archived-At: I notice today that on emacs -Q, both C-z and C-x C-z are bound to suspend-frame. Since a long time now, I have in my .emacs (global-set-key "\C-z" nil) And when needed (not often to be honest) I use C-x C-z for suspend-frame I use C-z as a prefix for emacs-wide personal bindings. I read somewhere I should use C-c but many modes already use it for mode-specific bindings, and I feel comfortable with this simple rule : C-x is for emacs default bindings C-z is my own space for global emacs bindings, like mpd-next-song or whatever should be accessible from everywhere C-b is mode-specific, so any mode is totally free to use this space for its needs That way, I ensure my global bindings will never make collision with emacs default global bindings, nor with mode-specific bindings. But this is a bit hackish. Two questions : - is there a reason why C-z is kept bound on suspend-frame along with C-x C-z ? - generally, how do you manage your personal bindings ? -- Paul