From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "paul r" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Usability suggestion : completion for M-: Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:49:52 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87ejaei4iz.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87hcf7r7vl.fsf@jurta.org> <003001c886f5$366f4330$0600a8c0@us.oracle.com> <874pb7ikt7.fsf@jurta.org> <000501c8873d$4ff68550$0600a8c0@us.oracle.com> <000701c88785$bd26dce0$0600a8c0@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205693410 8223 80.91.229.12 (16 Mar 2008 18:50:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:50:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juri Linkov , cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 16 19:50:38 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JaxwL-0002MJ-I6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:50:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jaxvl-0006eb-VY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:50:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jaxvg-0006d2-Es for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:49:56 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jaxvf-0006cV-5W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:49:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jaxve-0006cO-Vu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:49:55 -0400 Original-Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.154]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jaxve-00079G-Hc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:49:54 -0400 Original-Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so6363819fga.30 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:49:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=S/0EpygOaPU27ZnvrV9bTA8g0CBUV1xe8pq+S8c3jrg=; b=R6bUVdTnMC5aUe5h3xqPar8c31E1j9ChCrEXC/+yCN3evL8J12mP10GZyk5TymE0yefAskEiy8BXyeOrMoWA3Y//oFi54xo1VkTUDJEcS1as2/F2GViKDiTsJ0bowpLs9zJVdHHrdiOhu7BcZoMv7fY34bAiaTHeyDf5QNAkhLI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Y1OIuqmx/BqwSgYk7knEYjsikbw5IEfjwEMkXBy1XoZmBazyMRkoxCNG9LixGjL2/Bfa2nO/OcTl+xXeQAHYLDvWHqUjMI5+BOKvC1x6JIpdB9RGjkpRaaifbJWjOL+sfdzcjbVBmRbruCSqKilUIvz6TEvXaUOmCjicaTNAork= Original-Received: by 10.82.121.15 with SMTP id t15mr6160670buc.31.1205693392971; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.82.176.6 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:49:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <000701c88785$bd26dce0$0600a8c0@us.oracle.com> Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:92764 Archived-At: Drew Adams wrote : > On the contrary. TAB in the minibuffer either (1) self-inserts (when not > using completing-read or read-file-name) or (2) completes the entire > minibuffer input in such a way that you can hit RET to enter the completed > input. In other words, TAB does completion in minibuffer whenever possible. And, in lisp modes, TAB does NOT self-insert. For those reasons, I advocate dropping self-insert in favor of complete-symbol for Tab in M-: , for usability, consistency, and intuitiveness.