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From: "Clément Pit-Claudel" <cpitclaudel@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: Re: emacs-26: `with-eval-after-load' docstring omission
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 02:01:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e281dd73-cbd7-abb7-91f9-dc9769612754@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv606gk8ro.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org>

On 2018-02-28 18:22, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> You should not use `eval-after-load` nowadays, you should only use
> `with-eval-after-load`, so you'd write something like
> 
>     (with-eval-after-load 'flycheck
>       ;; Use eval+quote to delay macro expansion.
>       (eval '(flycheck-define-command ...)))

I got bitten by this again today, this time with this:

  (with-eval-after-load 'flycheck
    (push "npx" (flycheck-checker-get 'javascript-eslint 'command)))

… which failed with this message when Flycheck was actually loaded:

  Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function \(setf\ flycheck-checker-get\))
    (\(setf\ flycheck-checker-get\) (cons "npx" (flycheck-checker-get 'javascript-eslint 'command)) 'javascript-eslint 'command)

I'm slowly developing the habit of writing  (with-eval-after-load 'flycheck (eval '(…))), but I'm really not a fan of this pattern :/

What do we gain from byte-compiling the bodies of with-eval-after-load forms?  Byte-compilation warnings for undefined variables, but these are usually false positives (precisely because the variables in a with-eval-after-load are often defined by the package in question).  And some performance, but with-eval-after-load is discouraged in packages and its body typically runs once (or very few times?), so its performance should be essentially irrelevant.

Maybe we can find a way to prevent macro-expansion issues and make the behavior more intuitive?

Cheers,
Clément.



  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-17  6:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-23 13:42 emacs-26: `with-eval-after-load' docstring omission Vicente Vera
2018-02-23 14:16 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-02-24 14:42   ` Vicente Vera
2018-02-27 20:40   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-02-27 20:58     ` Stefan Monnier
2018-02-28 14:53       ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-02-28 23:22         ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-17  6:01           ` Clément Pit-Claudel [this message]
2018-03-17 14:19             ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-13 16:00               ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-04-13 18:02                 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-13 18:28                   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-04-13 18:41                     ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-13 22:43                     ` Stefan Monnier
2018-02-27 20:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-03 15:06 ` Vicente Vera
2018-03-03 15:38   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-03 21:52   ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-04 16:04   ` Vicente Vera
2018-03-05  3:39     ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-09  1:00       ` Noam Postavsky
2018-03-09  4:55         ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-09  0:47     ` Vicente Vera

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