From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tweaking t-m-m to make room for d-s-m Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 08:38:18 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87sk7pzqsp.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <33DBCF2DFF71401DB0861E66EC29ED2B@us.oracle.com> <5F1D87251C98412EADC1187ABFCC3E8D@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1269931248 29754 80.91.229.12 (30 Mar 2010 06:40:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 06:40:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: mathias@mnet-mail.de, dak@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 30 08:40:42 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NwV7x-000716-Pt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 08:40:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34119 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NwV7x-00058g-3c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 02:40:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NwV63-0004ki-4X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 02:38:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=35046 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NwV60-0004jH-Tq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 02:38:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NwV5z-0005LD-NZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 02:38:40 -0400 Original-Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.154]:7366) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NwV5z-0005Kz-I3; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 02:38:39 -0400 Original-Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so2785464fgb.12 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:38:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:received:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=KaXaE0yfyjWWAbpJ/P0rYMUX84EbQ09QTSrmcRLqKA8=; b=aNhFQW2WTZG0z6aDjO+/yXWjFWXoG3bQO7q1obQJTkAZnfv+ar8s4qJRps1M2yD5x4 3rzMn8VNKhlkUmH8TMCLO7QuAAu3OCmGiuMzBzQfdt1c5897wmq2qW4OyP7HwQbr79UZ DMBvCMST51bsSuewCGVF9WN+x7TTCgoNejWhE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=C2wBMYWqbF8+vFV2McRSiO/NpVVgPIF5xjl0FPOV6Igy5ChJ7etaTwRmerD0QTlMiN KbWFlHLSxFx/bye6/Ra7SW1NjxNmVsD7AeyxGAg4U4s/Cg69EaQRodnPKr8FefCz5mp2 Bor7K1Q90wxjf6oACRfHbVHN4p3Am2tP9yZsg= Original-Received: by 10.239.169.18 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:38:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Original-Received: by 10.239.165.138 with SMTP id x10mr557348hbd.146.1269931118231; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:38:38 -0700 (PDT) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122899 Archived-At: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > =C2=A0 =C2=A0- It is not as easy to type for `undo' if your are used to u= sing C-z for that. > > C-z has never been an undo command in Emacs > so Emacs users are not used to typing C-z for that. That conclusion is not valid. I think most Emacs users are today at least using also a web browser where C-z means undo while editing.