From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tweaking t-m-m to make room for d-s-m Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 00:53:37 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87sk7pzqsp.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <20100326092833.19294vuz9efv5qg4@webmail.mnet-online.de> <33DBCF2DFF71401DB0861E66EC29ED2B@us.oracle.com> <5F1D87251C98412EADC1187ABFCC3E8D@us.oracle.com> <7b501d5c1003271637r6039f73brd27d0d7144fc6994@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1269734052 6086 80.91.229.12 (27 Mar 2010 23:54:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 23:54:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dak@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, mathias@mnet-mail.de, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, drew.adams@oracle.com To: Deniz Dogan Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 28 00:54:07 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NvfpN-0006XZ-Tb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 00:54:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59018 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NvfpN-0004ZW-BE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:54:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NvfpJ-0004ZF-1c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:54:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=38051 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NvfpH-0004Yz-Pf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:54:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NvfpG-0006We-Mm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:53:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-fx0-f224.google.com ([209.85.220.224]:46365) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NvfpG-0006WT-IC; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:53:58 -0400 Original-Received: by fxm24 with SMTP id 24so79624fxm.26 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 16:53:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:received:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=B7NWCYMQc+JyleXC8+IOJf4S5uEc2jJT/OEB63/TUbE=; b=l7JGbFbz4WTnZ96eJtRGL2oRGskQvf/OKHfCNgUr0mFJKQZvWVP2oPb7I4ztPOrGeF HhB6gnr3HHkrZjxIAAyifBM780pNxPW7RpbpTOxJkviolT3xHRkhH8E/V+TjaTyRjETM Q8o736dC2Ytma753bgI/2IT7OvjXPXJcZPOko= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AHBoUiLwcCeFbZaE8gBEQ4gZ2Fvecx+ZYOUvZ6YicCkHbJIRMprhFjqPSd9JUtCX6C CBo2T5HIRRSNfnhCcFd2jNcj+JGrnmg9ez2576mJrC8cDQBJ/ZfRSrnHQZXc4BWukQ4K fwopsF34FeHTRFbYNZDprqAnZ+6iZJQiAmwrU= Original-Received: by 10.239.141.72 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 16:53:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7b501d5c1003271637r6039f73brd27d0d7144fc6994@mail.gmail.com> Original-Received: by 10.239.189.20 with SMTP id r20mr251366hbh.110.1269734037116; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 16:53:57 -0700 (PDT) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122777 Archived-At: On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Deniz Dogan w= rote: > 2010/3/28 Lennart Borgman : >> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: >>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0> And C-z is currently `suspend-frame' in Emacs. >>> >>> On a terminal, C-z suspends Emacs and is an important command,. >> >> Thanks, I forgot. But is there any good reason to use C-z also on >> window systems? Why not let it be undo there since that is the most >> common use (as far as I know)? >> >> >> > > Emacs users on Windows systems may like the fact that the bindings are > consistent, so that they can use the same .emacs independent of the > operating system. Yes, of course. But what do you mean? Is that in an argument against using C-z for `undo=C2=B4? Is there any kind of conflict? If so then perhaps it could be resolved by having one set of key bindings for terminal users and one for GUI users? (An idea we have been discussing before.)