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From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: d-s-m default: Nil + explanation!
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:03:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e01d8a51003250603r2d37f1bdjdd8eb0093a1cf153@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mxxw6c7b.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:24 AM, David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> wrote:
> Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Memnon Anon
>> <gegendosenfleisch@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I wanted to give a small explanation, why I think Nil is the better
>>> default.
>>
>> Thanks for giving your opinion.
>>
>>
>>> I think changing to D-S-M as a default is throwing dust into the eyes of
>>> the new users: Emacs is different. And without a minimal willingness to
>>> read the documentation, one will certainly fail.
>>
>> I see no reason that they should have to read something before they
>> can do even the simplest editing.
>
> There is no point in reverting to polemics until we have even decided
> what we are talking about.

I do not think what I said is just polemics. I tried to describe how
users can be expected to behave today. This is an important point.

I do not have time to dig into research of this question now, but if
you know some it would be great (and I would be very surprised if I
was wrong in this particular case).


> Any attempts of mine to narrow down the issue to separately decidable
> (and configurable) issues have been ignored: one or two postings later
> we are back to polemics.

I have pointed to that it looks lik better integration with cua-mode
is needed, but I have got no reply to that.




  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-25 13:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87sk7pzqsp.fsf@ambire.localdomain>
2010-03-24 20:20 ` d-s-m default: nil Ulf Jasper
2010-03-24 20:26   ` Deniz Dogan
2010-03-25  0:24 ` d-s-m default: Nil + explanation! (was: d-s-m default) Memnon Anon
2010-03-25  4:22   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-25  8:24     ` d-s-m default: Nil + explanation! David Kastrup
2010-03-25 13:03       ` Lennart Borgman [this message]
2010-03-25 13:18         ` David Kastrup
2010-03-25 13:27           ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-25 14:21             ` Davis Herring
2010-03-25 14:42               ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-25 15:04       ` Drew Adams
2010-03-25 16:27       ` Tweaking t-m-m to make room for d-s-m Stefan Monnier
2010-03-25 17:51         ` Alan Mackenzie
2010-03-26  7:04           ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-25 23:56         ` Drew Adams
2010-03-26  2:36           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-26  8:28         ` mathias
2010-03-26 17:53           ` Drew Adams
2010-03-26 20:18             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-26 21:18               ` Drew Adams
2010-03-26 21:30                 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-26 22:05                   ` Christophe Poncy
2010-03-26 22:07                     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-26 22:23                       ` Drew Adams
2010-03-26 22:33                         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-26 22:44                           ` Drew Adams
2010-03-26 22:59                             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-26 23:15                               ` Drew Adams
2010-03-26 22:30                       ` Christophe Poncy
2010-03-26 22:13                   ` Drew Adams
2010-03-26 22:32                     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-26 23:11                       ` Drew Adams
2010-03-26 23:23                         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-26 23:35                           ` Drew Adams
2010-03-27 22:49                   ` Richard Stallman
2010-03-27 23:27                     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-27 23:37                       ` Deniz Dogan
2010-03-27 23:53                         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-28  0:28                           ` Deniz Dogan
2010-03-29 23:38                       ` Richard Stallman
2010-03-30  0:08                         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-30  1:16                           ` Christoph
2010-03-30  5:31                           ` Richard Stallman
2010-03-30  6:38                             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-30  9:47                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-30 18:17                                 ` Chad Brown
2010-03-30 19:19                           ` Lluís
2010-03-25 20:48 ` d-s-m default: t Noah Friedman

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