From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: redisplay system of emacs Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 01:24:52 +0100 Message-ID: References: <4B633B7C.8030700@gmx.de> <873a1nvlki.fsf@gmail.com> <4B65B180.5010202@gmx.de> <87ock8pb21.fsf@xemacs.org> <87wryv8gct.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1265156881 15724 80.91.229.12 (3 Feb 2010 00:28:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 00:28:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 03 01:27:56 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NcT55-000506-LF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:26:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58404 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NcT54-0006NX-Sv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:26:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NcT3T-00061w-Ta for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:25:16 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37699 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NcT3T-00061d-IM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:25:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NcT3S-0005aA-L0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:25:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-fx0-f215.google.com ([209.85.220.215]:43844) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NcT3S-0005a6-68; Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:25:14 -0500 Original-Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so786721fxm.8 for ; Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:25:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=k75cqKfOufJlpQ6mkrTGL8EFGD0/G7QvjWn70LDWAeU=; b=AMTUeK427yu5j9RwyUZtcEGxx7qUS8k3S9aHttkOz2R9OweboHrigoGQ2q/wTat4ht GSG9j+GQ3jlKGbByVKLUt0COfmHfNon86kMJy7sBM0FIZwFYiSjKxFkbCEdCJoYcnQLh 7Gj3GSZRKtj2va9Qf9F+OmXys3owIlM4Oh09Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dkUE6Qwo4gkksEAu8BWeWfCpoSp52WE75lgsnAi6LvGOY6+mtBUiz/wJf88FuLDY/v b0/LZ8oVQIrqh1AnldSziz6EZR/Ri48S64LeeF3XgxlvD0jtml0datQsaVAJ8EqtfOsm LkYHyGx21Ao5yozLAGvbqKPtyV6qyBwH7rzXo= Original-Received: by 10.239.185.76 with SMTP id b12mr920054hbh.53.1265156712107; Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:25:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87wryv8gct.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:120836 Archived-At: On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:42 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > > Whether or not you take a moral stance does not imply that everybody > else in the system does. =C2=A0There is enough free software that nobody > bothers anymore about morals. =C2=A0People contribute to free software > because it hardly makes a difference and is what others do. =C2=A0There i= s > lots of free software by now, and little morals. Maybe you are right, but there is perhaps a couple of things to notice: - Quality: This is in my opinion a critical thing for free software. If the quality is not good enough it will be a burdon to use free software. This is a moral question then, especially since there are still people that needs free software because of the cost. - Future constraints: I think we should not forget about the possibility of future restraints. All the evil attachs on the internet gives arguments to restrict free software. I believe they will be used. The way to meat that threat and protect integrity and freedom is (again) quality.