From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs for new users Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:04:48 +0100 Message-ID: References: <912155b0911230837i48326730m82e0d54d4004be59@mail.gmail.com> <485b0c380911230905t6513e718w1dd804e18003228@mail.gmail.com> <6E092AF13796494BADEBCE2C5C0361CE@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1259183975 32547 80.91.229.12 (25 Nov 2009 21:19:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:19:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: per@starback.se, spedrosa@gmail.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 25 22:19:27 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NDPGp-0002Lm-77 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:19:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59057 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NDPGo-000600-9A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:19:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDP36-0006h7-Er for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:05:16 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDP31-0006ZI-1Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:05:15 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47781 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NDP30-0006Z1-S9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:05:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-yx0-f175.google.com ([209.85.210.175]:58236) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NDP2z-0006rr-DS; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:05:09 -0500 Original-Received: by yxe5 with SMTP id 5so131984yxe.24 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:05:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=C736L7WoZNHzoNdeBcY7MW8LnVq/gBFTq19GhRIh6hU=; b=V1fmxklrPJtYSA2/h/rtocexvk1ed1Kf6R0CDCq+jN+mqYk4SvH2bCi+x9zk9YLSM2 D8wGIs+0w/vwDrCz3LxN4DkH3gHAbnvpt8gu8q+M0NMTohwzhYPFDjQ2RSlBOfH16GHN jqkY8z2oJKaMsckj/HLP63c2f/2DJzOX85Xfs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bgeKZTf+5DHzY0byQvwSjnVgWZ5sAImbSehSKusAeo/1F+OCSS60MghTY1CyzK4yeZ vag8HGoPCwzPbMWjlLrv80ulzq7ueRT9zbshEQZ3LihmeMP18fTYfWAZriO16aq5bYc5 TJWDjjmcVEMuz9+YkW8Jsm1aK1zqOX7Dxkq94= Original-Received: by 10.101.8.22 with SMTP id l22mr6111572ani.59.1259183108366; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:05:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117769 Archived-At: On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > You seem to be discussing a way to avoid certain confusing situations. > That might be a good idea, but my idea of a "keyboard immersion mode" > (in which mouse clicks don't do anything) has a different purpose. Yes. > This is not meant to be more convenient or more foolproof. =C2=A0It is > meant to push the user to use and learn the key bindings. That would be doable with emulation-mode-map-alists.