From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Fiddling with the menus (was: bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23!) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:36:42 +0200 Message-ID: References: <83r5vklx9x.fsf@gnu.org> <83iqgwlvak.fsf@gnu.org> <83ab28lsuo.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1249850244 1980 80.91.229.12 (9 Aug 2009 20:37:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:37:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: xah@xahlee.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 09 22:37:17 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MaF8l-0001Nf-6t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 22:37:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42776 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MaF8k-0006TI-L9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 16:37:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MaF8L-0006Lz-RF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 16:36:49 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MaF8H-0006HP-1J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 16:36:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46878 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MaF8G-0006HB-Pa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 16:36:44 -0400 Original-Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.249]:6810) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MaF8F-00057f-An; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 16:36:43 -0400 Original-Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b6so980463ana.21 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 13:36:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NGkRFoJJIUOkCUgweW0CzgjGD1dw8qmGcyfdgnPllys=; b=Id3wBtjRvU5kNbnXforKp7yMqvfLIL/qYjNV2g23Z4xjzRrzTnkDFOTbJppZrt79dB CyXkXRNbutv8BSnyK0EI9gga8Et3MYrZ5Eh30Aw0x4lq6zeuyYtL5ZkD4hwbB/Qobpz0 CqCVx/B+ZPsMLetLw29s1xDPMLH8CU/NCnJaU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Ck0BjxXhx25+TWeV+1D3J+LWUJ9dTEm4FO56BpJ2bgwG0yMRYrEACMuJMjbgTNqZ8P euzGO9RJES5QCKNJ5jf2Ztd8nPsOkyJmO/B2S+lHG+wR+5i+p5PNPNOajvSALce33BLU gzE++Vj9TvXg1pIrMob6GXu8Fyd5sAhGhwIbg= Original-Received: by 10.100.123.11 with SMTP id v11mr2695412anc.60.1249850202797; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 13:36:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:113884 Archived-At: BTW, there are many things that could be in the menus. For example I just had to use the tag commands to find my way in the Emacs sources. I use them very seldom so I always forget them and have to look them up again. It is quite a bit irritating that they are not in the menus. I would suggest putting them under goto. Just make a submenu Edit / Go to / Tags and put all the commands in (info "(emacs) Find Tag") there. Such things would be very helpful. The reason to not put them there has been arguments like "it is too much" and "it is too deep". These arguments are much weaker than the advertising/finding argument in favor of having them there. (Do I have to say more about that? Just imaging asking a new user for example. Or someone like me that does a bit here and a bit there and forgets in between.)