From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming 23.1 release Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 05:55:46 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87ws63cij1.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1248148570 31125 80.91.229.12 (21 Jul 2009 03:56:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 03:56:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 21 05:56:03 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MT6SQ-0006Jq-TY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 05:56:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53714 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MT6SQ-00065s-37 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:56:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MT6SL-00065n-Im for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:55:57 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MT6SG-00065b-3X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:55:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53693 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MT6SF-00065Y-Tz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:55:51 -0400 Original-Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.242]:45482) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MT6SF-0006zq-Hr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:55:51 -0400 Original-Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b6so2746412ana.21 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:55:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=fDdu0OTrUMUfwZuzOvqmNe3XC2uxRmM2ztNijFKyjzg=; b=cixRmQx8bjK9OCaIm/kUINXHj5RA8S5Zw5DQ4NlUJRvbiwaF71/X6lu1dUjG0/dQi1 7WvVKqft7VXy6gIjMSKA1AjI84JsnEnrEKjg4XY/NIVyL8wpv0gaYlIVGhA8QL5keh/m oHMsZMjG97W8XojcI9h/+S333rO2FaejFxdq4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DhOHPx8fySArYMj5P36KDEeBhXWmd46ITfIAYlip8X4AmmTo1VRGtDqQsvFQ37abo/ Uro0+WXuPgVVO09wlbTFu3IYqTJRhyQGWCU8DyjUiOOkUpitsQcw6nUIHlcttILIUJ5J 1EKZWnr3DLfLrenr9mJq0i2C6NC16+2eVOgjw= Original-Received: by 10.100.215.12 with SMTP id n12mr7192127ang.133.1248148546926; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:55:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87ws63cij1.fsf@stupidchicken.com> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:112889 Archived-At: On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Chong Yidong wrote: > As mentioned earlier, the 23.1 release is currently scheduled for this > Wednesday. > > There are a couple of problems which probably can't be fixed without > destabilizing the branch and significantly delaying the release. =C2=A0Th= ese > are (i) the rmail auto-save issue, (ii) a bug in vertical-motion > involving continued a particular combination of tab characters > (Bug#3879), and (iii) the remaining issues with the Cocoa port. =C2=A0I t= hink > it's OK to leave these for 23.2. =C2=A0If anyone has objections to these = or > other issues, now is the time to raise them. There are some serious problems with frame creation on w32. It can crash Emacs and things can become unusable. However most of the times it works, but it might be worth noting/mention somewhere. * Some notes about it: The problems are sometimes very subtle and sometimes it is big problems. I just saw for example that w32-shell-execture stopped working so I had to restart Emacs. I probably see these problems because I am using winsav to restore frames. (To get things working I closed some frames and restarted Emacs with just one frame opening at startup.) I have just been able to reproduce this in a reliable way for one specific case (for which I filed a bug report), but it happens in other cases too. Since it often seems to happen with several frames created at once I wonder if some data structures happen to be shared without protection then. Just an idea - I do not know the code for frame creation.