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From: "Lennart Borgman" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
To: "Juri Linkov" <juri@jurta.org>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Autoloaded defcustoms
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 16:17:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e01d8a50901060717u5d032b5cn8939094ad8456c34@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r63g3238.fsf@jurta.org>

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org> wrote:
>>>> Yes, but the situation I am talking about is that custom-set-variables
>>>> have been run before custom-autoload (see my prev message).
>>>
>>> That would be a pilot error.
>>
>> Yes, but who is the pilot ...?
>
> Catch-22 :-)
>
>> Or, why not take care of this problem? I have no problem giving more
>> concrete examples why this can be needed, but do I have to do that?
>
> Why do you need to run custom-set-variables before custom-autoload?

This could be during startup of Emacs. There is nothing that says
custom-set-variables should be the last thing there. (And default.el
is run afterwards.)

Another situation could be if you are trying out a package. Doing that
might require that you run a file with its load defs. You may
customize some variables in that package. The next time you start
Emacs and try this package again those customized variables will be in
a mixed state. You can for example get global minor mode whose value
is t, but that does not work. The people will start complaining that
the package does not work.

I have seen this happen. Is there any reason not to handle the problem
the way I suggested?




  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-06 15:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-05 18:21 Autoloaded defcustoms Lennart Borgman
2009-01-05 22:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-05 22:22   ` Lennart Borgman
2009-01-06  0:57     ` Juri Linkov
2009-01-06  2:16       ` Lennart Borgman
2009-01-06  3:20     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-06 12:27       ` Lennart Borgman
2009-01-06 14:54         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-06 15:00           ` Lennart Borgman
2009-01-06 15:07             ` Juri Linkov
2009-01-06 15:17               ` Lennart Borgman [this message]
2009-01-06 18:18                 ` Chetan Pandya
2009-01-06 18:21                   ` Lennart Borgman
2009-01-06 18:20                 ` Stefan Monnier

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