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From: Kevin Rodgers <ihs_4664@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [drew.adams@oracle.com: links in Help buffer aren'talwayscorrect]
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:11:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dnqfrj$ljp$1@sea.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DNEMKBNJBGPAOPIJOOICGEEBDAAA.drew.adams@oracle.com>

Drew Adams wrote:
>     describe-frame-parameter seems to work usefully, but it has one
>     problem: its completion list is incomplete.
> 
> Do you mean because it iterates only over the parameters of the selected
> frame?
> 
> It might also include user-defined parameters that won't be documented in
> Info. Perhaps it should instead iterate over an explicit list of all of the
> Info-documented (built-in) frame parameters.

I'm sure that's what he means.  But by analogy, `M-x describe-variable'
doesn't complete on void symbols, and it is well understood that an
unset frame parameter's value is effectively void: frame-parameter
actually returns nil, but it means the parameter has no effect.

So why provide completion on all documented frame parameters?  So that
the user can simply type ? at the prompt to see the entire list of frame
parameters.  That would be really useful, if there was also a
set-frame-parameter command.

And if there were a define-frame-parameter function and/or defframeparam
macro that would maintain a global list (or obarray) of frame
parameters, it would allow `M-x describe-frame-parameter' and `M-x
set-frame-parameter' to reliably complete over both documented and
user-defined frame parameters.

> Perhaps too, the doc string should mention that it only works on documented
> built-in frame parameters, not user-defined parameters.

That seems like the right thing to do, unless we define a global
list (or obarray) of frame parameters to complete over.

> I noticed too that in emacs -q, M-x describe-frame-parameter RET
> cursor-color gives an error because Info-find-node is not defined
> (autoloaded).

Good point.  I think that since Info-goto-node displays the *Info*
buffer, it should be declared as an (interactive) command, and
therefore that it should be autoloaded.

-- 
Kevin Rodgers

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-15  1:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-13  3:15 [drew.adams@oracle.com: links in Help buffer aren't always correct] Richard Stallman
2005-12-13 17:17 ` Kevin Rodgers
2005-12-13 19:52   ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: links in Help buffer aren't alwayscorrect] Drew Adams
2005-12-13 23:53     ` Kevin Rodgers
2005-12-14 18:10       ` Kevin Rodgers
2005-12-14 20:02       ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-14 22:48         ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: links in Help buffer aren'talwayscorrect] Drew Adams
2005-12-15  1:11           ` Kevin Rodgers [this message]
2005-12-15  2:01             ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: links in Help bufferaren'talwayscorrect] Drew Adams
2005-12-15  3:16             ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: links in Help buffer aren'talwayscorrect] Stefan Monnier
2005-12-15 17:08             ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-15  4:39           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-15 15:39             ` bad mailer Subject meddling (was: links in Help buffer aren't always correct) Drew Adams
2005-12-15 18:47               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-12-16  5:08                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-16  7:55                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-15 19:43               ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-15 17:08           ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: links in Help buffer aren'talwayscorrect] Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-16 18:53             ` Kevin Rodgers
     [not found] <E1EnQVb-00056d-Vz@fencepost.gnu.org>
2005-12-19 19:22 ` Kevin Rodgers
2005-12-20 19:10   ` Kevin Rodgers
2005-12-20 19:59     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-23 17:07   ` Kevin Rodgers
2005-12-23 17:47     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] <E1Eoa6a-0004hk-QI@fencepost.gnu.org>
2005-12-20 16:09 ` Kevin Rodgers

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