From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kevin Rodgers Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Longlines and insert Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 15:22:14 -0700 Message-ID: References: <874q6fa1t0.wl%david.wallin@ul.ie> <87hdaebqxb.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <200511152241.20666.pogonyshev@gmx.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1132094126 13327 80.91.229.2 (15 Nov 2005 22:35:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 22:35:26 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 15 23:35:16 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ec9Md-00013x-T8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2005 23:33:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ec9Md-0000vz-CI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:33:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ec9Lw-0000gE-8x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:32:36 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ec9Lu-0000f4-Bt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:32:35 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ec9Lt-0000ey-Pl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:32:34 -0500 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1Ec9Lt-0007VH-Ky for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:32:34 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ec9Hw-0007aZ-T7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2005 23:28:28 +0100 Original-Received: from 207.167.42.60 ([207.167.42.60]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2005 23:28:28 +0100 Original-Received: from ihs_4664 by 207.167.42.60 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2005 23:28:28 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 22 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.167.42.60 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041105) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en In-Reply-To: <200511152241.20666.pogonyshev@gmx.net> X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:46047 Archived-At: Paul Pogonyshev wrote: > I think (and as far as I understood, Chong Yidong does too) that this is > a welcoming message for future problems. You patch up a piece of code, > while there are hundreds other lisp files, many of which insert newlines, > some of which need to be hard. We probably need something generic. At > the very least we need a convenience function to create a newline-string > with the necessary properties already set, so we don't have to go over > the lines above each time. CY has identified a single Lisp file (sendmail.el) that needs to be fixed, and we can guess that other message composition libraries do as well. Right now the most generic solution is the one he suggested: (let ((use-hard-newlines t)) (newline)) But I agree with you that a convenience function for strings would be better. A good start would be to add an &optional OBJECT argument for set-hard-newline-properties that gets passed to put-text-property. -- Kevin Rodgers