From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christian Schlauer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Better default values for tooltip padding and `tooltip-hide-delay'? Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 18:49:21 +0200 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: cs-usenet@arcor.de NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1128790331 666 80.91.229.2 (8 Oct 2005 16:52:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 16:52:11 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 08 18:52:08 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EOHuH-0004A8-5r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 18:50:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EOHuG-0005Vl-7z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 12:50:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EOHu4-0005Vd-3N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 12:50:32 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EOHu2-0005TX-9l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 12:50:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EOHu2-0005TQ-61 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 12:50:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1EOHu2-0001CH-95 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 12:50:30 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EOHso-0003pA-Fj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 18:49:14 +0200 Original-Received: from chrsc2.ikp.liu.se ([130.236.36.138]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 18:49:14 +0200 Original-Received: from cs-usenet by chrsc2.ikp.liu.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 08 Oct 2005 18:49:14 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 37 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: chrsc2.ikp.liu.se User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3 (windows-nt) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:43696 Archived-At: "Richard M. Stallman" writes: [...] > I'd also suggest to make the tooltip face specify a font height of 75%. > > Would people please try that, too? I tried that one. On Ubuntu GNU/Linux, `emacs -q' uses the font `-Adobe-Courier-Medium-R-Normal--17-120-100-100-M-100-ISO8859-1'. Then, the tooltip face looks best with a height of 0.75 or 0.8, but there is a big size difference between these two settings: the `l' of `sample' in the customize buffer has the following heights: 0.75 -> 9 pixels 0.8 -> 11 pixels 0.9 -> 11 pixels 1.0 -> 12 pixels With my preferred font, `-Misc-Fixed-Medium-R-Normal--15-140-75-75-C-90-ISO8859-1' a.k.a. `9x15', I get: 0.75 -> 8 pixels 0.8 -> 9 pixels 0.9 -> 11 pixels 1.0 -> 11 pixels So it shouldn't be 0.75 as that is too small with 9x15. What about 0.8? It is reasonable with both fonts I tried, although the effect is less pronounced with the `default' font on Ubuntu. -- Christian Schlauer